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ファイト／ステイナイト 
This is definitely one of the funniest episodes so far. I've mentioned before how Ouran seems to be a lot better when the series is focused on Haruhi and the group instead of some random characters of the week. This episode is a good example of this. Instead of giving too much focus on the guest characters, the writers simply use them to mine the comic reactions out of the Host club. It also helps that the guest characters of the week are so serious that they provide a good contrast to the silly characters from Ouran. Animation-wise, this is pretty much the same quality as last week's episode so that means the animators are pretty good at maintaining the consistency. As a side note, if you didn't read last week's NANA's discussion, flchick pointed out a PDF document from Nippon TV that lists Ouran as 26 episodes series while NANA has been given around 50 episodes (tentative).
http://www.ntv.co.jp/english/pc/ntv-animation.pdf
The episode opens with a classic music accompanied by three female figures dancing their way across the now opened Ouran gate. Inside the class, Haruhi finds out from her classmates that they have no afternoon class because today and tomorrow Ouran High is holding an event that allows students from other schools to come and visit the schools' clubs. At the same time, the twins are shocked to know that they have no drinks for their visitors and they think as a manager, Renge should arrange this. Renge, however, suggests that they should just give the visitors instant coffee. Because of this, Hikaru and Kaoru ask Haruhi to buy it since she's the only one knows where to buy it and she has no customer at the moment. So after buttering her up by giving her some hair and foot treatment, they dump her out of the clubroom with the order to buy the instant coffee. Haruhi is annoyed about this but is quickly distracted when two girls thank her for making the twins happy.
Haruhi doesn't understand what they meant by this so they tell her that they've been in the same class with the twins since middle school but they've never been interested in other people. However, since they joined the Host Club, they slowly talk a little bit and Haruhi's arrival makes them even more sociable to their classmates than before. While remembering the girls' words on her way from picking a bag of instant coffee, Haruhi slips on a banana skin thrown by a monkey that comes out of nowhere and falls into the arms of another girl. The girl, however, quickly notices that Haruhi is actually a girl and not a guy. Inside the school, 2 girls make their way into the Host Club and are instantly greeted by the guys, who now dress up like knights in shining armour. Tamaki immediately launches into this over the top speech by claiming that even if the world was to end, from today he'll protect them with his own life. The girls, however, are not impressed and begin to criticise him.
One of them thinks that Tamaki's vow is a rather selfish and asks Tamaki what the woman left behind would feel. The other girl then chimes in by saying that it can't be helped that men are lowly creatures who always consider their own pride first and foremost even when they can barely protect themselves. Upon hearing this, Tamaki wonders what sort of words should one say to a woman. All of a sudden, the girl who caught Haruhi in her arms appear and tells him that she'll ask the girl to fight together and promise to never leave her side forever. The girl then seals the deal by kissing Haruhi's arm causing the other two girls to follow suit. Tamaki is, of course, horrified that someone else touching Haruhi but before he can get to Haruhi, one of the girls already give him an uppercut. Kyoya immediately recognises the girls' uniform as St.Lobelia High School's so the girls decide to introduce themselves as Amakusa Benio, Maihara Chizuru, and Tsuwabuki Hinako.
The three of them are a part of the Shirayuri (White Lily - but the name is also a pun on the word 'Yuri'), or usually known as the Zuka Club. The guys, who realise that the name of 'Zuka' is derived from Takarazuka, an all female theatre troupe, become shock to see the girls' presentation. After a while, however, Tamaki is passed out while the twins laugh like there's no tomorrow. Their laugh is then interrupted by Renge, who comes out of the floor carrying a cup of Hescafe. She, however, immediately spits the coffee back after tasting it. Although to preserve a good taste, the scene has been censored with a shot of the Hescafe logo. She then proceeds to explain how St.Lobelia's Zuka Club considers female to be superior. It has a 30 years history of being run by women for women. Zuka's club activities include tea ceremony, debates about the meaning of being a woman, and theatrical performance. However, since there is no man in the school, Renge is not interested.
After Renge disappears again, the Lobelia girls proceed to make comment about how they don't like men and consider women to women relationship to be superior. The guys, of course, don't give a hoot about this and the twins demonstrate this by busy playing Nintendo DS. The girls then accuse the Host Club of playing with girls' heart with their pretend love. Benio thinks this is happening because Tamaki is half-blood and because the club wants to gain profit out of it. In her anger, she threatens to close the Host Club. Kyoya tells them that he understands what they're trying to say but asks them to wait because their President, Tamaki is sleeping. Tamaki, however, immediately wakes up when the girls try to ask Haruhi to have tea together with them. He points out what could possibly come out of girl on girl love especially since God created Adam and Eve. But before Tamaki can reach Haruhi, he slips on a banana skin and ends up dipping his finger in hot coffee.
Haruhi, who feels sorry for the guy, ends up bandaging him. Tamaki wonders if Haruhi always carry bandages with her but she tells him that the bandages are just gifts from the store where she bought the instant coffee. Their conversation, however, is interrupted by the Lobelia girls, who tell the guys that this place is not suitable for Haruhi so they'll try to transfer her into Lobelia and the Zuka Club. Haruhi tries to do some damage control by saying that she doesn't think that Tamaki is half-blood but Hunny corrects her that Tamaki is actually half French, half Japanese. She then tries to say that the Host Club doesn't really have a short history but the twins tell her that it's actually was founded after Tamaki came to the school. The think that ticked Haruhi the most, however, is when she finds out that the Club really does make profit by auctioning some of the items that the members have used. For example, Kyoya has just auctioned off Haruhi's 'unused' pencil for 30000 Yen.
Kyoya, however, points out that the money is to run the event, purchase the costume, et all. Despite this, Haruhi is still angry because the Club took her pencil and sold it online without her permission. Tamaki attempts to apologise by giving Haruhi his Bear-pencil but she's not interested. The Zuka Club thinks that they should come back tomorrow for Haruhi's decision. After the girls left, Haruhi also leave in anger. This causes everyone in the club to become worried. Hikaru wonders if they just sold a pencil that was probably given by Haruhi's mother but Kaoru thinks that it was just a pencil from an electronic store. Tamaki wonders if Haruhi would be better going to Zuka Club. The other guys, however, don't want it to happen. Having said that, the twins point out that since Haruhi is clever, she won't have trouble passing Lobelia's entrance exam. Kyoya also knows that Lobelia will probably paid off her debts. Seeing everyone panicking, Tamaki decides to calm them off by saying that he has a plan.
The next day, the Zuka girls are surprised when they see everyone in the Host Club except Mori dressing up as girls. Benio accuses Tamaki of mocking the girls, but Tamaki denies it and claims that this is an 'Omake' to show Haruhi the advantage of staying at the Host Club. He then points out by staying put, Haruhi would be able to have 'brothers' and 'sisters' and therefore, experiences the Zuka Club and the Host Club at the same time. Haruhi can't help herself from laughing upon seeing the silly costumes everyone is wearing but is touched when Hikaru tells her that the reason they're doing it is because they want to be in the Host Club together with Haruhi. Because of this, Haruhi tells the Lobelia girls that she thinks their way of life is interesting but she has her own goal and that is why she went to Ouran. Haruhi actually had no intention to quit although she did got angry at the guys for auctioning off her pencil. The Lobelia girls decide to leave for now but decide to crush the Host Club one day.
Impression:
No matter how many times I've seen this episode, it's hard not to laugh when the Host club appears as girls. This brings back the memory of that Fushigi Yuugi Omake where all of the guys have to dress up as girls in order to enter girls-only onsen. Everyone looks okay but Mitsukake, who's way too butch to be a woman. This episode also reminds me that there are some students who actually go to a single-sex school as opposed to co-ed one. There was actually a time when my parents wanted me to go to this prestigious high school which happens to be all male but I didn't get in because I am bad at math and the entrance test of course had to involve math. Even when I went to college, I always got a co-ed dorm so I can't help but wonder how different school life would be for those who go/went to single-sex school. Is there a benefit of going to a school meant for only one specific gender? Does competition tend to be more apparent in such school? Would you go to one if the school is good?
It's amusing, however, to know that the guys think Haruhi will want to be in another club. If Haruhi has her way, I think she'd prefer to stay away from any club and spend her time studying all on her own. Still, it was funny to see everyone squirm in fear of Haruhi's wrath. Hikaru and Kaoru laughing too much to the point that tears came out of their eyes was also a comedy gold. And then there is Renge and her involvement in the entire storyline. Her spitting out Hescafe while being censored by the brand was priceless. I also can't help but laughing outloud when she said she didn't care to go to Roberia because there's no man in it. There's also a continual joke in the form of a monkey dropping a banana skin, which causes some characters to slip. Also don't miss out the Oh! Laan! Auction (a skid on Yahoo! Japan! Auction site) and Pineapple computer (a skid on Apple computer) shots. There's even a DS game reference in the episode. It makes me wonder if these brand names are actually sponsors of the series.
I've went to an all-girls school all my life except for kindergarten and some summer activity classes during summer break. I don't think there's much competition in our school. I just suppose that because it's all-female, there are quite a lot who has crushes on other females, goes out with other females, etc.
I've forgotten how it was to be in a co-ed classroom. o_o
O_O eehhh! Mommy! Tamaki's scaring me! Make him go away!
Also, how did the girls of the other club find out Haruhi was a girl? Intuition that comes from being surrounded by other girls all the time?
Nitpick: I think the name of the school is supposed to be Lobelia, like the flower. It's just a guess, but considering that (in the manga, anyway) all the Zuka Club members have flower-based nicknames.
But anyway...
I'm a little sad to see that the cross-dressing isn't as convincing as it was in the manga. Part of what made it funny is how well the Host Club manages to pull it off, yet still seem like silly boys.
>> I just suppose that because it's all-female, there are quite a lot who has crushes on other females, goes out with other females, etc.
Really? I always heard about sexual orientation due to conditioning (ie. living on same sex campus) but I never really believe it. I supposed there's always some exceptions.
I liked the Nintendo DS reference, too. Although I'm not sure Nintendo is sponsoring this so much as I heard that the DS sells like *crazy* over there (over 100,000 a week), so that it's a well-known item.
Oh, and the episode looks *gorgeous*. So pretty. And I really like the uniforms from Lobelia ^^; so preferable to Ouran's yellow puffballs..
Amethyst, I definitely think there are exceptions.. but for instance, my friend's girlfriend attends a women's college in Oakland, where the unofficial motto is apparently "bi until proven lesbian". Yeah, there are straight people there... but apparently not in any majority.
*cracks up* The Host club really don't know how to put their make- up on. Kyouya looks more believable as a girl. Actually, he looks like an evil stepsister from a fairy tale. Honey looks pretty cute. The twins and tamaki.......no comment.
At least Mori didn't cross-dress. I would freak out if he did.
Thank God mori didn't Cross-dress. He is too manly for that stuff. Now to think about it, its not in his personality.
well i think it's 26 eps~ cuz they can't make more than dat yet~~ maybe it will have a second season~? =)
da manga still dun have lots of chapters released~~
thank gosh it's not 16 eps! (>.D
Hey wait. 26 episodes? Do you think they can maintain the animation quality for that many?
Omg..... This is so sad, but I have a huge crush on Mori. I wish I was in the anime. It's sick how much I'm falling for an anime character. He's so freaking cute. AhhH! >_<
Yikes! Tamaki looks scary as everyone has said. But since they're guys that's to be expected. They obviously don't know how to apply make up in moderation.
As for same-sex school, I once went to a high school like that. I think the advantages of going to such school is that you can concentrate better on your study since there are no boys (in my case) to distract you. But people still argue to this day if there it's actually true or not. I think it depends on the boys/girls themselves.
At first, the preview for this episode didn't look like it was going to be filled with bundles of laughter until I saw some of the pictures.
That's so funny! I busted a gut the second I noticed it was Tamaki. Haaaaaa!!! And I'm still laughing, I can't wait for the subbed version to come out. ^_^
OMG the twins! And Tamaki!
Haruhi (...) is touched when Hikaru tells her that the reason they're doing it is because they want to be in the Host Club together with Haruhi.
Yeah, go Hikaru!
o.o
50 episodes for Nana?! Why so many?!?!
i've been attending an exclusive school for girls for all my life... >.> there are some self-confessed lesbians over here but not many... i think it's because of the situation in my country, or the fact that we have a "sister" school that is exclusively for boys right across our school...
so yeah...
there is a difference though.... all our teachers are girls, and the PTA would sue the school if any male teachers were introduced... seriously, the school is so uptight... we aren't even allowed to wear capris and sleaveless shirts... damn it...
what makes i worse is that my school is a catholic school and the nuns will scold you with a mere mention of boys...
but it doesn't really seem to affect many since after school, they just meet up with the guys from the neighboring all-boys school...
thank god, i'm transfering to a co-ed school this year... high school would be such a drag if i didn't...
as for the ouran boys... they'd look okay without all the excessive make-up... really.... i'd expect them to have professionals doing it for them though, considering that they're filthy rich and all that, but apparently i was wrong
"At least Mori didn't cross-dress. I would freak out if he did."
Didn't he? The Zuka Club was supposed to be doing a performance of "Benibana" -- clearly a parody of "Berubara." Perhaps Mori is supposed to be the Oscar character?
btw.... in ep.2... wasn't it the twins that fixed-up haruhi with her dress and make-up?
i'm wondering where those mad make up skills went when it comes to this episode....
I think the name of the school is supposed to be Lobelia, like the flower
I don't really mind either way but I've changed it to Lobelia.
Hey wait. 26 episodes? Do you think they can maintain the animation quality for that many?
Let's hope they can :D I think if BONES plan the budget properly, they should be able to do it.
50 episodes for Nana?! Why so many?!?!
Well, the manga is already up to volume 16 or 17, IIRC. 50 episodes should be easy to achieve.
Didn't he? The Zuka Club was supposed to be doing a performance of "Benibana" -- clearly a parody of "Berubara." Perhaps Mori is supposed to be the Oscar character?
Would you mind giving a little bit of explanation? What's 'Berubara' and who's Oscar?
>> Would you mind giving a little bit of explanation? What's 'Berubara' and who's Oscar?
answer to berubara: that's the nickname for Riyoko Ikeda's master piece shoujo manga, The Rose of Versailles that center around the adventures and misadventures of a young noble woman raised as a man who would rise to ranks of captain of the royal guard and become involve in the many intrigues surrounding the French pre and post revoluntionary court. It's supposedly the archeotype for many crossdressing shoujo manga (i.e Shoujo Kakumei Utena)
Now that I think about it, I think the boys intentionally put on excessive make-up to drive Haruhi AWAY from the all girl's school. Because in the second episode, the twins applied Haruhi's make-up and she turned out fine.
"Now that I think about it, I think the boys intentionally put on excessive make-up to drive Haruhi AWAY from the all girl's school. Because in the second episode, the twins applied Haruhi's make-up and she turned out fine."
that explains it... lols XD i was thinking the same thing
That screenshot of all the high school girls walking down with the tree at the side is SO reminiscent of Utena...
God, this episode is so crack!
Kyouya looks more believable as a girl. Actually, he looks like an evil stepsister from a fairy tale.
Just wait for the Alice in Wonderland episode where he plays the evil Queen... xD;;
Hey wait. 26 episodes? Do you think they can maintain the animation quality for that many?
That's Bones' special skill, kind of. :D They managed to maintain a high quality animation in all of their shows that I've seen.
Not to be stupid but...where do u watch these episodes????? I cnt find them!!!:((
co-ed schools are definately better...i noe people in my school that have never interacted with guys besides family and this is Yr 9....wow i just realised how colorful this show is...
Hikaru is my favorite, he's so cute!
#1: Honey looks so adorable if he's a girl to begin with.
#2: The twins' curly hair and their green mascara are the most funniest thing I've seen in this episode.
#3: Kyoya can really be mistaken for a girl if he hide his face behind the fan. Is he suppose to disguise as a evil sister x maid?
#4: Renge's appearance with a slight tease of some mere commoner's advertisement was the best joke attempt I've seen so far this week. XD Gotta love it! A cup of Hescafe for me please! God, the power of advertisements :3
#5: I hope BONES do make the episode till epi 26. They just can't leave us with Haruhi in Wonderland as the last episode!!!!! Can they?;___; There's still tones tones of things to happen like Nekozawa's appearance again!!!!
Mori... he is so handsome in that blue suit... ^_^
Twins - killed me... they look like 2 port whores... O_o
HOLY SHIT THE TWINS. O__O
their hairstyle remind me of Linalee from D.Gray-man lol. |D
god i cant wait to see this ep >
You can watch the English fansubs on youtube.com
> "I just suppose that because it's all-female, there are quite a lot who has crushes on other females, goes out with other females, etc."
Well, it's obviously not only in single-sex schools that there are female x female relationships. I go to a co-ed school where there are more bisexual/lesbian girls than you would think at first sight.
> "my friend's girlfriend attends a women's college in Oakland, where the unofficial motto is apparently "bi until proven lesbian"."
I'm not saying that anyone here is stereotyping, but I know a lot of people who - just because I happen to be bisexual myself - always think that I have crushes on mostly girls. Just because a girl is bi, doesn't mean she only likes girls, but some people just automatically assume something like that. I, for one, may notice a girl in a different way than a straight female would, but I still tend to lean more towards liking guys. I guess it's because my bisexuality wasn't entirely noticeable until I got into junior high/high school. Lastly, it's usually not completely obvious if a person isn't straight, lol.
Anyway, I really love this episode. It's soooo funny! The guys look halarious (not to mention.. quiet hideous, haha) as girls. And I totally love Benio! She's great! XD I agree with Bunnyboo - Mori DOES look handsome! All the Host Club guys always do! And of course, Renge - Her and her Hescafe! LOL.
Glad that Mori is not cross-dressing. That will be too horrifying to see. I'm surprised Haruhi taking the entire thing so well considering that her father is a cross-dresser as well. I would have thought she'd be offended.
I loved the shameless Nintendo, Apple, and yahoo promotions, BONES even snuck some shamless self promotion as well. The banana gag was pretty funny, and the whole cross dressing schtick was a riot.
Thank heavens that Ouran will be running for 26 eps hopefully Yahoo, Nintendo, and Apple will bank roll this operation. I have great faith that BONES can plan a budget better than Gainax.
In regards to the issue of lesbianism and bisexuals developing in same gender schools I think that it is purely irrelevant what your sexuality is. The important thing is to be honest with oneself, as all respect begins with self respect. Besides I couldn't care less who your attracted to, I judge a person by how high they can bounce when they hit bottom.
Nope, Kagei, I hope I wasn't coming off as stereotyping. When my friend's gf said that to me, my response was something along the lines of, "Are you SURE?" and "how can you be absolutely positive?"
But in any case, I don't think anyone - female or male - that's bi has a preference, one way or another. In fact, the people I met at that college, if they were bi, were actually more voracious for men then most straight girls I've met.. less around. Whatever works, IMO.
Btw, I am THRILLED to hear that this is 26. :D
I thought I'd die from laughter after Mori's "ouran". xD
I was a bit confused when I saw these screenshots, since in the manga, only the twins and Hunny were crossdressed - and their makeup was impeccably perfect. In the anime they look like they took a spatula to their faces. But you know what? ENTIRELY worth it to see Kyoya in a maid outfit. *snickers*
I am loving your reviews, by the way. And the alt-text kills me. :)
Well, cross-dressing always worked in Monty Python and other British comedy troupes. Why not Ouran? But Tamaki is truly frightening in that get-up.
I loved that Lobelia was so over-the-top, they provided a nice equalizer to the antics of the Host Club.
kacpy: Mori and I have the same singing voice... *doesn't know whether to laugh at that or not*
i went to coed school for the first half of my life and am in a all girl high school now and i have to say that the girls in the samesex school are more scared of lesbians and don't really like the whole touchy fely thing but maybe thats just us.....but anyway this episode is awesome i just love the make up the guys had on.
i like this eps, but i like the way Host Club cross-dressing the manga, but i don't know how can they do the alice in wonderland in the manga. (Kaoya as the queen of heart.)
I went to two all-girls schools for primary and secondary school. That's 10 years in total. I guess being in a single-sex school makes one freer to discover oneself and focus on studying before being thrown into a mixed school where most people are busy hooking up. Where I'm from, single-sex schools tend to get higher rankings academically and even in the sporting/performing arts arena.
I attended an all-male school for high school and went co-ed for college - yes, there is a major difference. As noted by others, you don't have the in-class distraction of the opposite sex, but after school can be different (in our case, it was mostly limited to dances with girls' school on the weekends). I never heard of an gay sex going on at school, but it may well have.
ok, we get that the views of single sex schools is in the eye of the perciever.So now to speculate, who is that girl/woman in the episode preview? could it be a sister? step mother/ daddys girlfriend? I Wanna Know!
Okay, I just saw the episode for myself and I noticed something.
Renge now knows that Haruhi is a girl (otherwise, why would the Lobelia girls fight the Ouran Host Club boys over her). And the only reaction we get from her is that she looks forward to watching this rivalry. Why is that? I thought she had a crush on Haruhi. Or is she just stupid and missed the blatant evidence that Haruhi is a girl?
And to Madmaxy:
That's actually Haruhi's dad. He's a transvestite. That's why Haruhi doesn't care about genders so much.
Android: D'oh, you spoiled that for me :O I was speculating that it was the sister or something. Oh, well. ^^; I'm looking forward to next week's episode anyway. However, I'm also surprised that Renge doesn't show any reaction to the fact that Haruhi's a girl - I thought she never showed any indication that she guessed Haruhi's a girl.
I couldn't stop laughing when the boys sung their "Ouran" theme xD;; And it was actually kinda freaky to watch Mori playing the tambourine and *smiling* at the same time.
Benio's GAR for Haruhi (I could imagine her trying to steal Mikuru-chan away from the other Haruhi but nvm), and I think this episode was also a slight parody on some yuri-undertoned anime.
Aside from 'benibara' (which is taken from 'berubara' aka versailles no bara), I think there's another classic manga reference here. It's the Benio name that is also the main girl character's name in manga "Haikara-san ga tooru". See for detail here:
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/6603/haikara.html
Because I saw Renge is wearing a kind of kimono that is usually worn by female student in that manga. If I'm not mistaken, the kimono is called 'hakama' . Also manga Haikara-san ga tooru is about feminist that suits the theme of this Ouran episode.
Well, this is only my thought ^^;;
To Naddie:
I did?! I thought that they said it in the preview for the next episode! O_O sorry!
Android:
Well, I knew that they were gonna meet Haruhi's father, but I didn't know it was going to be in a form of *that* xD; Oh well, no biggie! :) I was spoiled that Haruhi was actually a girl from the start of the series, and so I already knew the plot from the first ep, and yet I still enjoyed it so it's all good!
I really dislike this episode, unlike the others. None of the jokes worked for me, I think they're ridiculus, absurd and retarded.
Can it be less exciting? First half of the episode was spent setting those characters and the 'story' up. And I'm not even sure what happened within the second half.
Plus the whole episode can be summerised within 20 words:
Weird girls came to the school, tried to take Haruhi away. But she doesn't want to go so they left.
I absolutely LOVED this episode. The twins sound horrible as girls, but Kyouya's "mom" voice was pretty darn good. Mori was handsome (as usual), and the whole crossdressing scene had me laughing for minutes. :D
Yes, I went to an all girls school when I was 13. It's a pretty good school. I didn't want to at first but I got accepted. But surprisingly, I really enjoyed my 4 years there. The bonding was great. (Of course, no catfights from competing for boys, etc)
Maybe the difference is girls from an all-girls school are more independent and less reliant on guys, coz we have to do things ourselves. We used to think girls from a co-ed school were always attempting to be too feeble so that they can rely on guys. Haha..but anywayz, as time goes by, I think the gap closes.
Still a lot of them have boyfriends and stuff (also, a lot without). There were crushes, yes. But lesbians? Maybe a few. In my year, there was only 1 girl that reeeeally looked like a guy. Also, the crushes were more similar to little girls liking female idols. I don't think there is any sexual connotation behind these crushes.
^Spoiler on ep.10^
Also, also, isn't weird how Tamaki is the "father" of Hahuri and here, he wears female clothing, and later, Haruhi's real dad is a cross-dresser. In ep.10, it's funny how Tamaki talked the same way as Haruhi's real dad when he got discovered by Haruhi in the "Commoner Super!"
....I can't believe there was a Nazi reference with the girls! Then again, it's in Japan, not America, but it cracked me up [along with the rest of the ep].
I have seen and own the entire series, I love it and it just keeps getting funnier and funnier!
i need help I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT THE HITACHIIN BROTHERS THERE SOOOOOOOO COOL
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