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ローゼンメイデン 
November 18, 2008 | 
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First thing first, I should apologize to the readers who still visit the site. I forgot that not everyone subscribe to RSS feeds and therefore they do go here and refresh the site, hoping for an update. Having said that, it's not my plan to abandon writing even though it's hard to find the motivation to do so lately. I will, however, try to churn out something once every three days. I am not planning on giving up on the blog - not when it's close to its 5 years anniversary. I have to admit, however, that I'm not ready to dive into episodic review just yet but I can do a one-off review kind of thing. Right now I am in the middle of reading the English version of Honey and Clover and much to my delight, the story is as good as I remember it. Although the manga lacks the extra jazz that the anime provides (movement, background songs, voice acting), the core of the story and its heart are fully intact. I wish I can say the same thing about any of the live action versions of the story but I've said all I wanted to say about them. Anyway, this series is still as relevant as ever and I can now relate to almost every main character in the series except probably Shuuji and Morita.
The first couple of chapters of Honey and Clover are actually not that funny. I mean, they are amusing on their own but they are definitely not as strong as the later chapters. It's amazing to see Mayama as a student. I always remember him as a career man and I forgot that at one point, he too was a poor student who loves free food from anyone who'd give it to him. I can't help but agreeing with him and Shuuji when the two of them later on commenting about how one positive thing about being an adult with full-time job is that you don't have to worry about what you want to buy because you can afford it. Of course, you still have to think about the future and save as much as you can for a house or a car, etc. But in general, foods and living expenses are pretty much non-issue if you have a good full-time job. Admittedly, this is a dangerous attitude to sport if you waste money easily. However, I find that the older I am, the less stuff that I actually want. Plus, I don't smoke, I don't drink, and I don't do drugs. My anime addiction has also lessened considerably in the past few years and I only buy series that I really like and want to watch over and over again. The same thing can be said about movies in general.
At this point in my life, I guess life in general pretty much mirrors Mayama's story after he got a full-time job at Fujiwara Design. I am not that satisfied with my job but it's not a bad job either. Considering the recent economic collapse, it's a good thing to appreciate what you already have. On a closer look, however, I'm still pretty much like Takemoto at the start of the story. I have a job but it's not the kind of job that I want to do for the rest of my life. I have not realized the career that I want and I should really be doing something about it. However, it's so hard to do so when you work from 9 to 5. At the end of a day, all I want is to relax and do something fun, like playing video games or watch movies or go out with your friends. Anyway, back to Honey and Clover, the more I read the story, the more I realized that I used to be like Hagu when I was a kid. I was the shy kid who didn't have any friends in primary school. It's not until senior high that I found friends that I clicked with and 'grew out of my shell' so to speak. Interestingly enough, that was also the time when students usually are divided into their main study of interest. People usually do click better with people who have similar interest.
In my case, it was Biology that I was interested in. The only other options were physics, which is revolting, and Economics, which sounded boring. I swear that when I was in high school, I wanted to become a DNA scientist. It never happened because as it turns out, I'm far more interested in arts and design. Life is strange that way. Anyway, going back to Hagu, I now find it uneasy looking at all of the attention that she received from Shuuji, now that I know the twist that will happen in the finale. I realized that I'm being close-minded about it but I just can't shake the creepy feeling of it. Especially since he's so obsessed of her to the point that he can't stop thinking of her. That part where he plays Morin Khuur while singing about her? It's a bit uncomfortable to read now. Of course, Shuuji wasn't the only one who's obsessed with Hagu. Despite them thinking that she looks like a 7 years old in pictures, both Takemoto and Morita can't help but being attracted to her. I do admit that it becomes less and less creepy as Hagu matures and starts to look her age in the later half of the story. However, since the English manga is only up to volume 4, she has yet to reach that stage.
Anyway, Takemoto is so easily identifiable for me because all of his hopes, worries, and insecurities very closely mirror my own's. Hagu, I can understand a little bit from artist's perspective, especially her desire to create something that only she can do and no one else can. It's not until recently that I understand both Mayama and Yamada's characters though. It's not like I never fell in love before but they weren't as intense as what I'm feeling now. As a result, throughout the original run of the anime, their stories largely passed me by. The same can be said with the whole Takemoto/Hagu/Morita love story. It's not until now that I realize how true their experiences are to anyone who has had a crush on someone else. The desire to see the person in question almost every day, the inability to do anything productive, and the constant up/down that comes with it. It's really weird to read the manga and nodding along with their monologues. Talking to the person that you really like, for example, is a lot harder than I thought. I also never realised how blush-inducing it is to stand at a bus stop and to see the object of your affection suddenly stand right next to you.
In general, I don't think I've ever had problem talking to anyone casually but now anything that comes out of my mouth sounds stupid and forced. I didn't know that being in love can make you sound like an incoherent mess. The problem is, not saying anything makes the situation even more awkward because the two of us would just stand next to each other not saying anything for 10-15 minutes until the bus arrive (thank God for iPod) and we take our own separate ways. This is true even though there's practically no one around us. There were times when I wanted to ask something comedic like "Is this your favorite standing spot?" but thankfully I also wanted to bang my head against the wall for even entertaining the thought of saying that stupid line. What I'm afraid the most, however, is turning into Mayama and there have been times when I wonder if I'm going that way. But at the same time, I finally understand why he did it. It's hard for two people who are not in close proximity to get to know each other better. That's why all of those times, Mayama tried and tried again to be accepted as an employee of Harada design despite already having a full-time employment elsewhere.
So what's the point of this post? Not much really. I just want to revisit Honey and Clover while recalling my life this year. Also, I just want to let everyone know that I'm still interested in blogging. So much has happened this year. I lost my father, become interested in someone, all while still holding all of the hopes and aspirations that I have. I did find that priorities change with the little changes in one's life and I'm one of those people who just go with the flow so it's easy for me to be swept away by the current instead of following my own path. But then again, I find planning things never work that well anyway. I'm better off just taking things one day at a time. Sometimes I wish I can be more like Morita, sure of himself and what he wants to do but that hasn't happened yet. I have a good friend who's similar to him and wish him the very best in life. It's weird to see him growing up through facebook but I'm really proud of him. I also realized how lucky I am to know the people that I've met. Even though I don't have large number of friends, I really like the ones that I've met so far. Each one always reminds me of some of the best times that I've had.
I'll forever be a visitor of this blog :)
Apreciate your entry, take your time. Life is hard for everyone.
dude, i like your postings. cheer up. i think im going through almost the same thing as you are, at the moment. feeling really pissed off about it sometimes... but i guess, everything else is a one step at a time, where u need to learn how to appreciate life.
Good to hear from you again. Life isn't meant to be that simple and easy and when you overcome the difficulties in life, it makes life worth living or else you would have a boring life.
Gambatte Garten-san! It's true, life is really hard. But maybe all of our dreams will come true for us one day, even our career paths.
I really love Honey and Clover. I first started watching the anime because I read them through your blogs. So thanks Garten. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find an anime that gives me similar feelings as Honey and Clover. Maybe that's a good thing, since that'll mean Honey and Clover is a true gem in my book. I've been watching Toradora, which I had hoped would be a really nice, simple slice-of-life anime I've been hoping for. The first 4 episodes really pulled me in. But episodes 5-7 were somewhat blah.
I wish I was able to see a continuation of all the characters' journey into adulthood in Honey and Clover. I'm sure some people would say no, the ending was perfect and the whole point at the end of the story was to depart and move on with your life. But what if there was a Honey and Clover reunion??? Like 5 years has passed...what are all of them doing now?
It's so interesting hearing you mix anime in with your life. Maybe you should try doing it more often?
I don't know whether to call it a coincidence that this happen to you at the same time as myself. However, your problem contains similar traits as my own. Since you are willing to share your thoughts and worries, I should return the favor with my own.
As a University student who changed a major and is on his final year, I had a lot of expectations. Growing up in an Asian family, I had some restrictions placed on me. For example, I never got a job in high school so it was hard for me to obtain one after graduation due to no reference and experience. Presently, that is still in effect. If you're wondering how I get by, my parents pay for my education which is suffocating and demeaning. Of course, once I graduate, I have every intention of paying them back so I can get rid of this embarrassment.
My experience is no different from any other guy or gal who went to a university. Backstabbing, doing anything for a grade, associates who self-proclaim themselves as your friends is something I knew was going to happen going during my post-secondary years. Therefore, I decided to be cautious in terms of who I associate with due to my outgoing nature. However, what I didn't expect was to fall in love on the very last year of my university.
The girl I fell in love with, who is 3 years younger than me, was actually a friend of mine I met in a HR class last year. We became good friends for a year without feeling awkward or anything. Everything felt natural. Back then, I had no feelings for her whatsoever. Then, about a month ago, it just clicked. I didn't know why and how...and it just really sucks for a variety of reasons. Love is never planned and it can be distracting.
It's not until now that I realize how true their experiences are to anyone who has had a crush on someone else
When you mentioned that, I thought of my own instantly. It was my actual first love. I've examined all the previous girls I may have liked over my life. I found out that those were all infatuations. This girl is different because I got to know her very well (which is why I don't believe in love within first sight).
The desire to see the person in question almost every day, the inability to do anything productive, and the constant up/down that comes with it.
I know the feeling. For the past month, I've been trying to convince myself that this feeling can't be real by working out constantly to the point that I look malnourished. There are so many hurdles to go through that there are times that I don't think I can't pass them all. The doubt, fear and hesitation creeps on you as if you have no chance.
Talking to the person that you really like, for example, is a lot harder than I thought. I also never realised how blush-inducing it is to stand at a bus stop and to see the object of your affection suddenly stand right next to you.
I hide my feelings very well from her. I act as if everything was normal as if we were still friends and such. I mask my emotions well enough for her to not know how I feel really about her.
The sad part is...I don't think I can ever tell her how I feel. Too many obstacles are on the way. Did I not mention that she is not Asian? She is part-Italian. For me, I never believed in the word, race. As far as I'm concerned, we're all humans. The only thing that differentiates us is culture. There is also the dreaded line between being good friends and the opportunity to be a couple. I think I may have crossed it...especially when I was the one who comforted her after she broke up with her ex-boyfriend. Think of this way, Garten. You're in a much better position than I am. I have no job, no license, still in school and broke. The worst part is that my school is currently on strike due to a conflict between a union and the school. It's been almost two weeks since the school shut down...
Right now, I have never wanted to graduate more than I do as of this moment...
You having a fighting chance, Garten. I've probably lost mine....but it's up to you to take that risk. If you think you even have the slightest chance, you should go for it. I analyzed all my options and I see no solution in sight. All I'll say is this...
Don't end up like me.
Thanks for writing--I've been a long-time reader of this blog since I started college. I'm graduating with my Master's now, so it's been a long journey for me too.
In some ways I feel like a Morita, using work and brilliance to plow through the world. Taking a look back, I wouldn't mind going to the workforce. I had my doubts years ago being anti-war, but now that I'm actually in the defense industry, I'm really enjoying myself.
I drank, I smoked, and I developed an addiction to guns. I went from an introvert nerd to a socialite kickboxer. I loved, I lost. Last year I had a breakdown, realizing that almost all of my friends from middle school had died in gang violence, accidents, etc.
In that respect I don't think Mayama represents us very well, at least those of us going to univ in the States. These 5 years have been such a roller coaster, H&C (still my favorite series ever) pales in comparison. The faces and places are so vast.
Anyway, here's to the end of an era and the beginning of the rest of our lives. Keep on truckin'
I think Takemoto's worries and problems are the things that everyone goes through at least once in their life. Probably the reason why I couldn't help rooting for him. The series really makes you think about your future and life.
Anyways, I hope things work out well with your job and all. It's kinda hard to say "I understand" or something similar to cheer you up because I'm still a university student. I mean... high school students will never be able to understand university student's feeling and teenagers will never be able to understand what it means to be over 20. So I suspect I will truly understand what you are going through until I reach that stage. I guess that is another reason why H&C is so attractive. It will feel different everytime you re-watch it, because as you age, you will understand more of what these characters are feeling.
I digress. What I wanted to say was good luck with whatever you are trying to achieve ^^ (Oh, and please don't become like Mayama... I mean, you said it yourself when you were blogging. It could look freaky depends on how you see his actions ;p just jk) And I'm glad you are still alive. ^^
Hahaha, i totally get what you mean. However rather than our lives mirroring Honey & Clover, I'd say Honey & Clover mirrors the lives of many people, as especially those who've gone through that particular stage of life.
Personally, I don't think I've reached your stage in life yet (which is why I root for Takemoto most of the time) but I did get that whole 'the world is a big place' feeling everytime I think about my future too.
Out of all the anime I've watched, I'd say Honey & Clover is on that group of anime that've influenced me the most, and boy does it belong there. Eitherway, God Bless you on your journey in life & love, after all we're all people living on the same earth, makes sense that we at least offer some encouragement once in a while. =)
thx for the responses guys. It's very appreciated.
But what if there was a Honey and Clover reunion??? Like 5 years has passed...what are all of them doing now?
I'd probably say "NO" but if it exists, I'll be the first to watch it. :P
Backstabbing, doing anything for a grade, associates who self-proclaim themselves as your friends is something I knew was going to happen going during my post-secondary years.
That sounds...hostile. Competition is understandable but I don't recall any student backstabbing each other while I was at uni.
The sad part is...I don't think I can ever tell her how I feel. Too many obstacles are on the way. Did I not mention that she is not Asian? She is part-Italian. For me, I never believed in the word, race. As far as I'm concerned, we're all humans. The only thing that differentiates us is culture. There is also the dreaded line between being good friends and the opportunity to be a couple. I think I may have crossed it...especially when I was the one who comforted her after she broke up with her ex-boyfriend.
I don't think you should be worried about that race issue. And don't you know that some of the best couple out there are the ones who started out as friends? I mean, how can a person knows the person that they like better unless you two are friends first? Total strangers have no advantage since neither party knows the other.
Think of this way, Garten. You're in a much better position than I am. I have no job, no license, still in school and broke.
I don't think so, man. At least you know her. You already have that knowledge about her likes and dislikes. I have no knowledge of such thing.
Last year I had a breakdown, realizing that almost all of my friends from middle school had died in gang violence, accidents, etc.
I'm sorry to hear about your friends and I hope you've recovered from your breakdown. Part of HC might be relevant to some people but it's definitely not a universal truth for everyone.
I digress. What I wanted to say was good luck with whatever you are trying to achieve ^^ (Oh, and please don't become like Mayama... I mean, you said it yourself when you were blogging. It could look freaky depends on how you see his actions ;p just jk) And I'm glad you are still alive. ^^
LOL, don't worry. I think my horror at Mayama's action is more than enough to restrain me.
I have been on this site for a year now, but never give you any comment for your work. You have helped me pick out some good animes, and for that i want to thank you!
Would use the power of words to may keep you going with this blogg:
You are doing a greate job, what ever you decide to do. You have made a masterpice (at least for me)
/NoNamedWords
I don't think so, man. At least you know her. You already have that knowledge about her likes and dislikes. I have no knowledge of such thing.
What part of having no money, no job, no license and being broke do you not understand? What good is it to know the person when you have no money to spend to do stuff together? Face it, as you get older, money matters. If this was high school, it would be a different story, but that's not the case.
Furthermore, knowing the person is MUCH MORE easier than trying to get a job and such. I'll give you a starting point. Find something she is interested in by observing her actions (not to the point that it makes you look like a freak or a stalker :P). Just pay attention when necessary. Then strike a conversation that relates to her. It is that simple.
Notice how that was much easier than trying to get a JOB?!
I rest my case.
Hey Garten, good luck with the person you like! I hope you'll get to strike up a conversation soon! Gambatte!
Hello there!
It's been quite a while I haven't been visiting this site. However, I do admit that this site has become my first source of the latest animes shown.
Anyway, I'm not quite sure what has happened to you Garten, but you have all my prayers that you'll be just alright. :)
I don't exactly know what am i suppose to say. Maybe because I'm not that good at comforting someone. hehe...
May you keep doing whatever you're doing now with the blog. And you sure have developed such a great site. Keep up the greatest work then! :) Keep on smiling....
To Garten:
How long do you spend your time on the Internet? I mean, doing all this reviews for a day? And do you get connected to the Internet everyday? Just wonder...
to kyouya:
u must be from york i assume?
and I have LOTS of friends in your situation because I am also asian too. Lots of my guy friends have never dated and claim that they just haven't found the one yet. So I do understand your situation. But when you brought up money I have to totally disagree with you. My boyfriend and I are not exactly poor but not rich. He doesn't have a car so whenever I need to go home either his friends have to drive me or my parents do. We usually only see each other once a week (because we are both busy) but we keep in contact through msn and phone. Although I think money is soomewhat an issue it should not stop any relationship from starting or continuuing. If you are telling me that you can't start a relationship because you have no money then think about the people in countries that are not developed yet.
I just think if the girl is right for you and she understands your situation money should not matter.
Anyways good luck to you and also good luck to Garten. BTW, to Garten, I really love your blog. I think I got addicted to reading blogs after I visited your's =p
Anyway, I'm not quite sure what has happened to you Garten, but you have all my prayers that you'll be just alright. :)
I just changed, I guess. 5 Years is a long time to maintain a blog.
I don't exactly know what am i suppose to say. Maybe because I'm not that good at comforting someone. hehe...May you keep doing whatever you're doing now with the blog. And you sure have developed such a great site. Keep up the greatest work then! :) Keep on smiling....
Thank you. It's really appreciated.
How long do you spend your time on the Internet? I mean, doing all this reviews for a day? And do you get connected to the Internet everyday? Just wonder...
Lately, not much actually. Well, my job (web designer) requires me to be on the net from time to time but lately I don't use it as much because I'm preoccupied elsewhere. I used to spend around 6 hours doing reviews. I wouldn't recommend it. It's kind of draining after a while. But yes, I'm connected to the internet 24/7 even if I don't use it all the time.
BTW, to Garten, I really love your blog. I think I got addicted to reading blogs after I visited your's
Once again, thank you to everyone for the kind words.
"I just want to revisit Honey and Clover while recalling my life this year"
Funny, I sometimes do the same thing.
Never posted before, but just thought I'd say I have enjoyed browsing your blog for a long time now, thanks.
For me it has been for 2 years that I have followed your blog. I really like the way you explain and express your impression and your opinion about anime. It make the anime more interesting not just watching it and then finished.
Even you will disappear for months, but I will visit here from time to time to check whether sth updated or not (both about your anime review and your life experence too (^O^) .
Hi Garten - amazing; I think I must have been reading your blogs (including Kongetsu) on an almost-weekly basis for the past four years - I can't believe that five years have shot by... congratulations on your achievement. It takes discipline and the courage to be candid to do what you have done. There are many occasions that I've wished to keep a journal of some kind, but I've always had an excuse. I think you'll look back and see this a wonderful record of what is clearly an amazing phase of your life... not to mention the quiet joy you've brought to your many regular visitors
One of the reasons I love this blog so much is the way your experiences seem to mirror my own, and especially your insights into 'Honey and Clover', which is my favourite series now (leaving aside the small fact that I've yet to see the last few episodes - I've been putting it off for the past two years!). It's comforting to read that somebody else feels the same way about a show, or have had similar personal experiences. Thank you again!
Hey, I haven't been on this site for ages.
I think Garten you've hit a very deep and common button what you said it is hard to persue what you really want to do in life when you are already set on a different path and sailing well. It is hard to break out of this path when you don't have the time and energy for much else. Also when you've doing something for so long, the security piles up and you become more and more afraid to come out of this comfort zone called certainty. I'm in a similar situation, and even though I try to take time to ready myself for an alternative career, I am stuck with a very intensive university course, and I found whatever progress I manage to make in between working and socialising is depressingly small.
But having said that, it is important to be consistent. Murakami Haruki, for example, didn't start writing until he was 29, and when he did, it was just an hour on the dinner table every night. So long as you are driven and ready to spend time, the small progress will eventually add up. Much like Takemoto's bike trip, it seems like something very hard and demanding, but at the end of the day, all you have done is push the pedals again and again.
Anyway, it is to great to see you are still blogging. I will have to wait for the xmas holidays to catch up with all that I've missed this season.
honey and clover.... i'll be forever visiting this site whenever there's updates on H&C or even on other animes. ^_^ Keep up da good work! And thank you for sharing!
Well, now I really want to read the manga.
Anyway, I've visited this blog since I knew there was such thing as an animeblog haha, and I must say that I'll never know how you people get to make all the picspam and review. I never have the time or I'm too lazy. So I'll clap you. =)
I only wanted to add on the talking to a stranger thing. I had a Chemistry class some months ago, and a new kid was there. So he was alone for weeks, and I developt a silly crush on him. So once I noticed in a breaktime that he was sitting alone behind me, and randomly said hi, and if he was the new kid and stuff. It was totally stupid haha. So I said that if he needed anything to just talk to me. Next class, since we knew each other from face we just automatically sat together, and I learnt he had a girlfriend haha. But that didn't stop us to become good temporal friends, and we talked a lot and it was fun.
A casual remark, the weather, the time, anything really works. If the other person doesn't respond in a good way, you at least gain confidence, I'm sure of it, and you won't lose a thing if there wasn't something to lose in the first place. That is, if you really want to talk to the other person. Sometimes things just make their way, but you'll never now if you never try. And even if the remark is extremely silly, sometimes it works.
I wonder which character I'll feel identified with.
Go Garten, we'll be waiting right here! go and live, and be happy.
this was one of the best posts of memento!
I, too, strongly identify with Takemoto. I think most of us have had the feeling of not knowing where life would lead us. Right now I am in my last year of university, feeling torn between taking a few years to explore the world and pursuing a higher degree right away. I am very afraid that taking a few years off would be "wasting my life", but I am even more afraid that doing a grad. degree that I may not like would waste more years.
As for falling in love, I would have to say that you're lucky, Garten. Despite all the awkwardness involved when you are in proximity of the person, it is still an amazing feeling to have a crush on someone. I haven't been allowed to develop relationships, so I rarely get the chance to experience that feeling. So, despite the awkwardness of it all, you should cherish the experience. And who knows, that person may feel the same way about you! Good luck!
I haven't been allowed to develop relationships, so I rarely get the chance to experience that feeling.
What in the world does that mean? How is it possible that you're not allow to develop a relationship?
The odd part is how EVERYONE who's male in Hagu's life (save Mayama) gets obsessed with her - as seen in the manga, where there's a cut after Shuuji mentions having taken her father's place at the sports festival at school and then we see her dad doing the same sort of thing Shuuji did in Mongolia - hae his head down in something crying Hagu's name. And the sad thing is... well, in the end, she seems to have grown so used to this sort of attention.obsession that she doesn't really resolve the triangle in a definitive way, instead choosing to stay with Shuuji (for now) as in the anime. But of course, Shuuji kinda brought it on himself, by continuing that overprotectiveness which kept Hagu from growing up at all until she'd been out of his influence for a while.
Beyond that, the whole story's always been about growing up to some extent... as well as how to handle love, which is something everyone (almost everyone) encounters at some point or another, which is probably why it strikes people the way it does as a story - you can relate to everyone in it in some way.
I don't want to say you will figure it out,
Because my friends always said so with me but till the end i still screwd everything up.
Long ago I was good at chemistry, and set my path for life to become chemist or scientist, just before, something get in the way and I need to sit back to find out what i really want?
Coincidently, 1 day, I found my drawings which my friend kept as memento ages ago.I know I want to draw, but it take me a while to decide.
I understand, say it is a hard decision is an understatement.
And now even I am working hard to get in an art school, but I'm still feel insecure, I don't know how things will turn out to be
but certainly
I gave it a try
and in the end of the day, at least that's what i won't regret.
So, i hope you give it a try too
i hope one day i can see your art works and say
you see? You can do it.
It's been a while since this was posted but one day I was like, "I wonder if Memento is still running" and here I am. I will always be a fan and thankful for the inspiration you gave me a LOOOOONG time ago. I always credit you as the catalyst as to why I blogged. Either way, life sucks. Your Honey and Clover posts, on the other hand, do not. They have this certain touch to them that'll never die.
Just. Thanks.
Wow, all the comments are so kind. Garten-san has many wonderful readers.
I remember discovering your blog when the Honey and Clover anime was airing. I just started watching the Honey and Clover drama and I remembered all the wonderful posts you wrote for the anime. I don't know if you have seen it too but I feel the drama captures the nostalgic essence of the story even if it doesn't strictly follow the story. Anyway, I really love Honey and Clover as well.
Good Luck to you and everyone else in following your dreams!
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