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ファイト／ステイナイト 
Yeah, the animation really does look a lot better here although I still think the character design is still not as good as the first season. In addition to this, since the OVA would only have 3 episodes, they should have used this episode to feature the comifes part of the story. I just think it's a lot more interesting and than the story they ended up using here. Besides, I kind of want to see Kousaka as a trap scene animated in its full glory. Don't give me that funny look. I thought trap is all the rage these days. That scene is worth it just to hear/see Madarame and Kugapii's reaction. Plus, who can forget Saki's reaction afterwards. At any rate, instead of fun Kousaka trap, we have Madarame being metrosexual here and while the concept is funny, the execution is not that amusing in my opinion. Certainly not on the same level as the first episode.
The episode begins with Saki inviting Ogiue to have lunch with her and her friends. In the process, she finds out that Ogiue wears contact lens. Ogiue confirms that she's been wearing it since Spring. When Saki's friend wonders about her eyesight, Ogiue tells her that it's around 0.1. Saki realises that this means Ogiue changed her image when she entered the university in Tokyo and thinks that it's quite girly. Ogiue claims that this was not the only reason why she did it. Saki, however, starts playing with Ogiue's hair and tells her that she should do something about her hair. Ogiue is embarassed to hear this since this hairstyle is apparently new. Saki thinks that maybe it's Ogiue's clothes which need changing. She proceeds to inspect Ogiue's shirt which is not only too large but also a man's shirt. Ogiue blushes and admits that she purposely chose it. Saki tells her that she knows Ogiue wants to hide her figure but she thinks it's too Otaku-like.
Saki thinks that Ogiue needs to learn how to dress up better now that she's in Tokyo. Ogiue is offended by this and asks Ssaki not to treat her like a village girl. While the girls converse, Madarame happens to enter the cafetaria. Saki tries to wave at him but Madarame simply ignores her. This pissed Saki off so she decides to confront Madarame. Madarame's excuse is that Saki was with her 'ordinary' friends. When Saki points out that Ogiue was there as well, Madarame claims that he doesn't want to disrupt girls' talks. Saki is still not pleased because Madarame diverted his eyes and ignored her back then. Saki points out that everyone already knows that her boyfriend is an Otaku as well as the fact that she visits Genshiken everyday. All of a sudden, Saki realises that Madarame has been wearing a square-shaped glasses and couldn't help laughing out loud upon seeing this. She wonders why Madarame suddenly decides to become Oshare (fashionable).
Madarame claims that he just feels like a change of pace and wonders if it's not good. Saki denies this and tells Madarame that she was just talking to Ogiue about clothes. Because of this she wonders if they have no interest in it. She then points out at Madarame's shirt and wonders if it's Otaku fashion. Madarame admits that they don't know much about fashion. Sasahara backs this up by saying that they don't have much money either. In response Saki points out that Kousaka buys games and clothes but still have enough leftovers. Saki admits, however, that his style is different from his personality. That day, Madarame goes to the shopping centre but he can't help himself wondering why he's there. He eventually remembers that he did want to pick up jacket and trousers. When he tries to enter a clothing shop, however, he hesitates, claiming that he never entered a shop like this before since he usually never spends more than 2000 Yen on clothes.
Even after he enters a shop, Madarame still can't stop being embarrassed about it. Eventually the stress of trying to be fashionable gets to him and he decides to relax at a local arcade by playing video games. After a while, Madarame goes back to the shop but this time he's resolved to at least take a look at the price tag. Much to his horror, however, the clothes have rather expensive price tags, prompting him to wonder how he can afford this. He thinks if it's for DVD box, it would make sense but he doesn't see why he would want to spend that much money on clothes. He immediately thinks that since he can't afford expensive clothes, he may as well buy the cheap one. Madarame, however, remembers Saki telling him not to give up so he decides to find something reasonable. After unintentionally shocking him, a shop assistant informs him that trousers are in 2nd floor. After seeing the price, however, he wants to go home again.
Madarame thinks he's done his best and realises he hasn't spent this much time comparing price tags since the first time he went to a doujinshi shop back in junior high. Suddenly Madarame realises that he's been doing this the wrong way. He believes he should not care about price tags but to make a choice based on taste. He thinks this is applicable whether it is doujinshi or trousers and what Saki was trying to say. Imaginary Saki denies this from her little box but Madarame decides to ignore her. That night after purchasing the pant, Madarame spots her talking to her friends in the city and decides to approach her. Saki is mildly annoyed by this but nevertheless introduces Madarame as her boyfriend's friend. Madarame immediately assumes that he's bothering her just as he said before. Much to his surprise, however, Saki asks him if he's going home and when he confirms this, she bids goodbye to her friends.
Madarame is even more shocked when Saki tells him that she's going home as well because her friends have things to do. Upon seeing Madarame's hesitation, Saki wonders if he has things to do as well but Madarame immediately denies this. He, however, wonders if they were having a fight. Saki is confused about this at first before laughing outloud, asking Madarame if that's what he calls a fight. Because of this she decides to ask Madarame to go out for food to 'reconcile'. Besides, she's kind of hungry. The two end up going to a Kaiten-zushi restaurant together. Inside, Saki asks a bewildered Madarame if he's still angry. She thinks during meal time, one should be happy. Madarame tells Saki that as he thought, Saki is a creature from another planet while he's from Planet Otaku. She points out that Kousaka won't care even if he finds out about this. In responses, Madarame tells her that Kousaka comes from an entirely different galaxy.
Madarame pointing out that Saki hates Otaku. Because of this she tries to understand his hobby even though she doesn't like it. She's been playing game together with him, for example. Madarame is shocked to hear this and tells Saki that she doesn't like that kind of thing: "walked through the thorny path". Madarame mumbles that the truth he prefers Saki to be that 'person from another planet'. After Dinner, the two takes a train together and when one man vacates his seat, Madarame asks Saki to sit on it. Saki refuses and tells Madarame to sit on it instead. Madarame tells her that if he'd be in disgrace if he takes the seat (before a girl). In response Saki tells him that Madarame said Otaku-like things again so Madarame has no choice but to sit down. The next day, Madarame wears his new clothes and is praised by Saki but they both are shocked when Ogiue comes with shocking clothes. It seems she purchased whatever the shop assistant sold her.
Impression:
I don't think this episode is as funny as the first one. It's probably because I can't really identify with Madarame or Saki. Madarame clearly doesn't care so much about his appearance while Saki is the reverse. In general, however, I kind of agree with Saki that a person can like anime/manga and still dress neatly and take care of your health. The reason Otaku in Japan get such a bad stigma is because they seem to put to much emphasis on one matter (anime) over other aspects of their life. There are many executives and professional workers who actually love anime and engage in their hobby quite a lot. However, they also know when to move on to issues that do not involve anime. Moving along, I find the topic about whether or not you take a seat in the bus is kind of interesting. I think these days it's really hard to take a seat/offer a seat to someone and not ending up being embarrassed because of it. Because of this, I have some questions:
If you're a guy and there is an empty seat and there is a girl standing next to you, would you take the seat?
1. Hell Yeah, it's the age of equal opportunity. That means everyone is entitled to that seat.
2. Uhm no, you're not being a gentlemen here. Girls should get the seat first.
If you're a girl and there is an empty seat and there is a guy standing next to you, would you take the seat?
1. Of course, a guy should sit after a girl gets a seat.
2. Hell no, I'm perfectly able to stand up just like a guy.
A girl, so taking option 2). Equality is worthless unless people on both sides act the part. It's more like..."if everybody else is standing, why should I be entitled to a seat" than "stand up like a guy".
If he offers, it's another story, the principle of free stuff. Who doesn't like free stuff?
I find this episode to be more satisfying because it is somewhat of an issue that occurs in society, whether you're into anime or not. If someone invests themselves too much in their hobbies, they lose touch with reality at times. Madarame demonstrated that he was at least willing to try something new. Personally, when Madarame looked at those prices, I thought some were expensive while some were moderately priced.
In the end, Madarame did make the right decision to go with taste rather than price. He can try to combine the two in the future. I did find it hilarious how he compared to buying doujinish to clothes.
I am annoyed that Kugayama and Tanaka got only one line of dialog. The production team better get everyone involved in the last episode.
I am also a bit biased to say that I like this episode better than the first one because I am a huge Hiyama Nobyuki fan. He captures Madarame's character brillianty, which also makes it my favorite character.
I also like this story more compare to episode 9, which involved both Saki and Madarame. Maybe it's because of the fact it can be easily related to.
Hope to see episode 3 wrap up nicely in April. =)
Osoi kedo, Arigato na, Garten :P
Oh..
Since I'm a guy, I always take option #2...no matter what.
depends, if there's an elderly, despite the gender, I'd probably offer the sit to one of them rather than a girl, unless that girl asks for that seat.
I don't know, depends on the situation, and who catches my eye first XD
If I'm already sitting, I only give up my seat for the really young,elderly, pregnant or handicapped on the bus. I think it's strange to give your seat to a female near your age unless you're trying to hit on her, plus the bus is usually jammed and you'd cause even more discomfort for everyone standing by doing so.
If someone gets up and frees up a seat, I would wait to see or ask if others around would like to sit first
Well I'm a girl, but for me, it depends... Is the seat in question at the back of the bus because I get carsick. Which one of us is carrying more stuff? Whoever is carrying more stuff should get the seat. And then there's the question of "Are you wearing deodorant?"
This looks like an interesting episode, I can't wait to watch it... although it doesn't seem like a whole lot happens. Was this part in the manga or is it anime only?
As for your question, I've never really been in a situation exactly like that... but I usually tend to let others go before me (whether it's taking a seat or whatnot) no matter if it's a guy or a girl.
Well, I'm a guy so I'll answer the first question.
I'd have to say it depends and it is based around how tired I am and if I am just dead tired, I probably would not even notice the girl and sit (1) but otherwise, I'll "try my best" to go for (2).
Was this part in the manga or is it anime only?
The shopping clothes part is from the manga, IIRC. But I'm not sure about the rest.
I have been to planet Otaku. In fact, I own a house there. I bought it from the previous owner with a box of Ecchi manga.
pretty good ^_^
Guy, I choose option two. Why? It's called "being nice"" something society has long forgotten.
I should probably download Genshiken.
I did't find this bit of the manga particularly interesting, so I wonder why they choose to animate this over other things. Maybe they're planning on season two, so they're taking things in chronological order? Let's hope so.
As to your questions at the end, unless it's a friend, guys and girls don't make any difference to me. I only offer my seats to people who truly need it: elderlies, pregnant women and disabled people.
"As to your questions at the end...guys and girls don't make any difference to me. I only offer my seats to people who truly need it: elderlies, pregnant women and disabled people."
This goes for me as well. I will also probably defer seats to people who are juggling lots of bags/luggage.
I dislike policies that favors specific groups when the groups are essentially equal in the area the policy effects. Hence, I might defer seats to all both males and female, or grab the seat in spite of both (I do either, depending on how tired I am). Interestingly, the latter option seems to result in a net decrease in 'niceness' (i.e. eliminating a bias that favors specific groups results in no one being favored).
If one is unwilling to extend a favorable bias to all groups, is a net decrease in 'niceness' a strong argument for keeping the middle-ground (i.e. favor towards specific groups), rather than eliminating the bias completely (i.e. favor towards no groups)? This hardly seems to be the case. If we see or imagine this policy written large (in civic and corporate institutions), then such a bias would strike us as distinctly unfair. I'd chatter further giving an explanation as to why we this seems unfair, but it seems like I've already written a lot....
As an interesting thought-piece, imagine that males had a policy of deferring seats only to other males. Does this intuitively still strike one as 'nice'--or does it provoke other reactions? Now imagine this favorable bias towards one's own group written large, and consider your opinions towards such policy.
Eh, sorry. For some reason this topic seems to kickstart my contemplative spirit.
...in other words inherit bias is wired deep into even the most innocent seeming of cultural quirks...to be truly unbiased will make one seem mildly sociopathic to most people...
My answer to your question is:
Male or Female, I would always ask the other person first. The exception would be in a real crowded situation where it isn't easy to move away to offer the seat: yes, I've been on some subway, where it is so crowded, they scowl at you for moving around, thus bumping into multiple people, to let someone else take the seat. The exception to this case is if you notice someone very young, very old, or clearly having physical difficulty.
As a woman, I'd take a seat if it was offered to me. I think it's very sweet and it makes me feel good that someone (like a stranger) would be that polite and caring. But that almost never happens. As a woman myself, I've given up my seat COUNTLESS times. To elderly people and kids. I don't mind doing it, it makes me feel warm inside. :D
1. Of course, a guy should sit after a girl gets a seat.
You know what? When I first read that scene in the manga I thought "Oh Saki what are you doing Madarame is being a gentlemen what more do you want?". She calls his attitude that of an otaku which causes him to sit down so as to deny that he is being otaku. I found that wrong. Men should still offer his seat to girl I mean after all they do consider the weak sex so they might as well do something so simple as offering a seat. But, I agree it was an interesting scene to watch. Wonder what her little boyfriend does.... probably makes her stand I gather hence the fact that she is not used to it. lol
I'm a girl, and I'd give it to whoever looks like they need the seat more regardless of gender.
Slightly off the discussion here...SASAHARA IS READING OURAN VOLUME 8. HOW COOL IS THAT. :D
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