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ローゼンメイデン 
A few weeks ago, a friend asked me what kind of ending am I looking forward to see in Code Geass finale. After thinking about it for a while, I have to admit that I have no desire for a specific ending. This is probably one of the few series where I have little to no attachment towards the characters. I mean I feel sorry for C.C but since her main intention is to die, then wishing her to not die will be kind of the reverse of what she wants. The other characters are fair game as far as I'm concerned. It's probably a good thing as well since despite how it looked last week, the writings have actually gone towards a train-wreck style ending. What I mean by this is that I can see the ending being one of those endings where almost everyone dies in style like Evangelion. I admit that I've read spoilers for this series and while their validity is in question, I can see the series heading towards that direction now that part of the spoilers are proven to be true. As a side note, I'm including some of my commentaries in the summary section since it's better to do it like this for this episode.
The episode opens with the Black Knight seeking to liberate Japan. Their presence is immediately intercepted by Knight of One, Lord Waldstein. It's kind of amusing to hear Britannia claiming that the country is theirs now. It wasn't even theirs in the first place but they colonized it and oppressed its people. Do they really think that sooner or later the people in the country won't revolt against them? I always wonder what's the point of invasion of other countries? Is it because the presence of natural resources that the other country wants but can't get without paying premium price? In that case, wouldn't the resource that a country directs towards war could have been used to find alternative natural resources or to develop one's own resource? Anyway, Britannia panics because Black Knight manages to amass many troops to attack them. Knight of One, however, tells his henchmen that the plan is to hold on to Area 11 while the Royal Families will swarm into the United Federations of Nations. However, if Black Knights manages to liberate Area 11, then all other nations will revolt against Britannia as well, changing the map of the world.
At the same time, Lelouch is back in Kururugi Shrine, remembering how he and Suzaku first became friends. It's ironic to see young Suzaku so patriotic to Japan back then. What actually happened between that and him killing his father so that Japan will lose to Britannia? Did he really forsake his ideals and his national pride because he thinks he can save more Japanese if Britannia won the war quickly? In the present time, Suzaku confronts Lelouch about their so-called 'friendship'. He points out how Lelouch always betrays him and everyone else. It's hard to believe that Suzaku fails to see that he's done exactly the same thing that he accuses Lelouch of doing. He's killed his own father and betrayed his own country in order to achieve his vision. Meanwhile, Asahina and Chiba are unhappy that they can't fight with Xingke just yet. Asahina doesn't trust Zero because he lets people like Rolo and Orange join their group. At the same time, Ougi and Diethard are seen in a briefing room. Diethard basically blackmails Ougi using Villetta even though Ougi just wants to quit the organization. Diethard sees Ougi as an important asset for Black Knights.
Back in her room, C.C is looking at the band-aid in her finger as if it's some kind of wedding ring. This is not good. Lelouch is not exactly an ideal husband material plus, C.C knew his mother. Isn't that kind of robbing the cradle? Anyway, back to Suzaku and Lelouch, Suzaku wants to know if Lelouch uses Geass on Euphie to order her to massacre the Japanese people. For some unknown reason, Lelouch just admits it without trying to explain that the whole thing was an accident. I guess he knows that Suzaku is stubborn and that an attempt to explain things will just be interpreted differently by the bullhead. Lelouch then kneels down, apologizing for his sins but reminds Suzaku that it's his sins not Nunnally. At the same time, Kallen remembers what Nunnally said about Lelouch being a good brother. She wonders which one is the real Lelouch: the devoted brother or the masked Zero. The answer is really easy: Zero is the by-product of the devoted brother. The most gentle person will become the most ruthless person if he/she has to protect someone that they love. The most dangerous person is either: a person who tries to protect someone or something that they care about or someone who has lost everything.
In the battlefield, Xingke is facing off against Knight of One, who wields Excalibur. Back in Kururugi Shrine, Suzaku slams his feet onto Lelouch's head, proving that he's into kinky shit and wants Lelouch to lick his boot. Not really, but he tells Lelouch if he thinks the almighty Suzaku can forgive him. He thinks if Lelouch wants to lie, he should lie all the way through. Moreover, he wants to know why Lelouch put "to live" Geass on him, why he saved Suzaku when he was about to be executed after being accused for killing Clovis, and why Lelouch saved the student council during the hotel highjacking. Lelouch claims that he did all of those for his own benefits but Suzaku refuses to believe this. He knows that Lelouch's eyes right now are the eyes of someone who's hiding something and taking the blame. Just like him when he joined Britannia army. Because of this, he wants Lelouch to become an ally of justice for real and take his lies all the way to the end. Suzaku is about to offer his hand to Lelouch and the later is about to shake on it when they get shot from behind. This causes Lelouch to think that Suzaku has betrayed him.
Inside her prison, Kallen gets to talk to Gino, who tells her that he never saw Suzaku smiling like he was in the photo. He also asks Kallen why she didn't use Stadtfeld instead of Kouzuki as her last name when the former means that she can live better. He therefore wonders if she has any interest in joining the Knights. Wow, it'll be a stab in the back for Zero if Kallen ends up joining the Knight of Rounds as well. But yeah, it's really hard to understand why Kallen gravitates more towards her Japanese heritage than her Britannian one. I thought children from mixed parents don't have partiality as to which culture they belong to. In most cases, they usually feel like they don't belong to either culture/nationality since the native culture/people usually don't see them as 'one of their own'. Anyway, Lelouch is now being confined in a frame where Schneizel makes an appearance through a monitor. He points out that he's disappointed that Zero turns out to be his own brother but he'll mediate this with his father so Lelouch's life will be spared. You know, people in family don't always get along with each other but this family is past beyond needing therapy.
Lelouch, however, refuses Schneizel offers because he's done trusting people. He already has backup plan. Prior to coming to Kururugi Shrine, he already geassed Guilford so that he'll think that Lelouch is Cornelia when he puts his hand on his collar. Hmm, mistaking a boy for a woman? This is why it's not a good idea to have a crush on your superior. Anyway, Guilford goes berserk when he thinks that Cornelia is in captivity and sets out to set 'her' free. Thanks to his effort, Lelouch runs away in Guilford's hand, bidding goodbye to his first and last friend, Suzaku. Later on, Suzaku is questioned by Schneizel, who wants to know who Suzaku is? Japanese? Honorary Britannian? Euphie's Knight? Lelouch's friend? Later on, Zero finally comes to Tokyo settlement ready to do battle. Unknown to his enemy, he's used the Gefjun Disturber that he installed on the local train to stop every single frame and electricity in Area 11. All of a sudden, all Black Knights appear from within Tokyo Settlement. Inside his frame, Lelouch tells himself that it was wrong of him to rely on pity. From now on, he'll only rely on calm and cold-heart.
Clearly Lelouch fails to realize that's how his father started. It makes one wonder what the writers are trying to say here? Unrealistic expectation of others is the root of disappointment and eventually, hatred? It's probably true. But the reverse is also true in that people often imagine the worst about their friends even though it may not be true at all. Anyway, Schneizel tells himself that ever since that time with Clovis, he thought something was off but now he understands and have all of the cards with him. As for Suzaku, Canon tells Suzaku that if had told Schneizel about this fact right from the start, this war would never have happened. I'm a bit lost here. Is Canon referring about Suzaku's knowledge that Zero = Lelouch? Shouldn't Schneizel know about this already? After all, I get the impression that Cornelia is already aware that Zero = Lelouch. Or is he talking about how the entire Japanese vs. Black Knight is because of Suzaku and Lelouch's messed up friendship? But that doesn't make sense at all. At any rate, it seems Lelouch has lost the plot and swears to show everyone despair. This won't end well at all.
Side notes
It's probably easy to say that Lelouch and Suzaku didn't have a strong friendship in the first place and that's why they distrust each other now. However, it's far more complicated than that. The decision that each character made in their life just happens to be the opposite of what the other has chosen so far. I do think that Suzaku has a crisis of identity here. He doesn't seem to know what he wants anymore. What did he set out to do by killing his father and joining Britannian army? Did he really think that he can change Britannia from within? I wish he'll stop using his desire as a kid as justification for his action in the present. Now that he's seen the inside of Britannia Royal Family, surely he knows that the possibility that he can make a change from within is so small that it's not even worth considering. Even if he makes friends with Schneizel and the others, there will be other royal families who feel that Elevens are below them. And with a leader like the Emperor, the chances of the Japanese earning equal status to Britannia is zero to none.
Conversely, I don't understand why Lelouch is so surprised about possible betrayal by Suzaku? Even though Suzaku didn't betray him this time around, I still think he had unrealistic expectation of how Suzaku should behave to him. Moving along, it looks like the seeds of distrust have been planted amongst many Black Knight members. If Lelouch fails to win this war, I can see some of them revolting against him. Now that Schenizel is aware that Zero is Lelouch, he can also uses that fact against Lelouch. What I want to know is how Kallen will react. Will she accept Gino's proposal or will she stay loyal to Lelouch? Asahina and Chiba have always disliked Zero so them not trusting him is not surprising at all. However, if Ougi and Kallen stop trusting him, I think that will be the end for Zero. Last but not least, it never ceases to amaze me how messed up the royal family can be. I wonder why the Emperor never bothered to tell his other children that Lelouch is Zero. Is it because he loves mind games or is it because he doesn't want Schneizel to use the opportunity to further his own agenda?
Preview
I predict that at the end of the series, Lulu and Suzaku will be strangling each other to death. There's no salvaging their friendship.
Does this show still remember that Xingke does not have long lifespan? Or has it been conveniently swept into the plothole?
Its quite intriguing in regards to Schneizel's final statements - ( Now all of the cards are in his hands)
I wonder if his cards SUPERSEDE that of his Fathers', Since we clearly saw the Emperor making preparations for the future - NETWORK Control .. whatever..... )
side note. that Smile by the Emperor was PRICELESS!!
I think a lot of people are going to die, and some already have, but not really in Evangelion-like style or numbers, and if I had to bet...it'll be a happier end than many people are expecting. Whether that's good or bad is too early to tell.
It's been estimated that current spoilers only cover up to episode 20 or so. Even the relatively detailed ones that seem to be coming true, though with some inaccuracies, don't tell us the actual ending, just the immediate setup for whatever happens in 21-25, more or less.
Interesting though, to see your use of the "trainwreck" word as a way to describe an Evangelion-like kind of ending. I suppose you would apply that to Ideon as well? Or maybe even Zeta Gundam if you're a little more conservative with the death counts (only a little).
Lelouch acted like a drama queen. It's not like this is the first time he made friends. So Suzaku is not his friends anymore I don't see why he thinks he no longer can trust anyone.
Rolo saving Nunnally? BAD IDEA!!!
I think the reason he used NGE, aside from its famousness (at least in America), is that there are a lot of things paralleling NGE: Killing God, a father abandoned his child, mysterious ice queen who resembles protagonist mother (and have young protagonist memento), the "reflection episode" (ep 15), massacring of "civilians" in an underground base(ep 14)... do we need more?
I do not forsee a SEED-like 'uniting of enemies' ending here, a la Athrun and Kira... but more an 'everyone dies bloodily' Shakespearean tragedy. And given that last shot of the preview, anyone want to bet that Suzaku uses Freya and kills Nunnally along with most of Tokyo? :D
@Haesslich
Feeling like apocalypse, are we? :D I agree that there's a likelihood that Nina will somehow smuggle Freya (or is it Prayer?) on Lancelot and kills the majority of Tokyo population. But I think the royal family would have evacuated by then.
Let's have a survival bets. I think only Lelouch and C.C will stay alive at the end of the story. My top 5 of who will surely be dead:
1. The emperor
2. Schneizel
3. Nina
4. Rolo
5. Guilford
In all of this, what in the world is going to happen to Kallen? It seems to me that she will become a decisive person in the episode to come.
Personally, I believe Nunnally has a good chance of dying therefore making Lulu go kuku. Honestly, I never grew attached to many of theses characters either. So a tragic ending I think wouldn't bother me as much.
Wow, what a hot mess we have here. Lelouch thinking Suzaku has betrayed him again, Suzaku not sure about his position, Kallen wavering in her devotion to Zero, Nunnally in danger, and crazy Nina about to nuke everyone down because she's a crazy lesbian. Only in Sunrise-produced series this can happen.
I hope the ending is so out there that people will be shocked and talk about it for ages. Even if it means having to kill most of the characters.
Interesting though, to see your use of the "trainwreck" word as a way to describe an Evangelion-like kind of ending. I suppose you would apply that to Ideon as well? Or maybe even Zeta Gundam if you're a little more conservative with the death counts (only a little).
Pretty much. I don't mean it in awful kind of way but more like spectacular bloodbath that is horrifying but at the same time you can't stop looking at it.
@Maki, my thought as well. Lulu must have lost his mind that poor boy. Has he forgotten what happened to Shirley?
If Tokyo is bombed, then I think Nunnally, Schneizel, will manage to evacuate because at the very least Nina will tell them that she's installed Freya on Lancelot. But then again, that girl is batshit insane that she probably won't tell anyone about it.
Wait is Kallen in Tokyo as well? She's a toast too then.
I loved this episode. it was so great. can';t wait for the next =D
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The fact that Lelouch expected Suzaku to betray him and having a backup plan made me wonder why he was so surprised. Lulu is going to end up like Light from Death Note. WTF. Also, what happened to Xing-ke at the end? The Knight of One wasn't fighting anymore, so I thought Xingke lost, which would have sucked extremely for Lelouch.
It would have been hilarious if Guilford just started trying to makeout with Lelouch. Oh, god. Schneizel's statement at the end really interested me. Instead of the focus being on the Emperor as the antagonist, it's shifting towards Schneizel.
Nunnally feels like basically the WORST CHARACTER EVER. She acts just like Euphie, but doesn't ever actually do anything. Her only purpose is so that Lulu doesn't go crazy, which makes me suspect that she will die and Lulu will go crazy.
Also, I wonder how its going to go with Rolo!~
I just finished watching the sub version and Rolo will be taking Nunnaly....how is that going to end?? and seriously, has lulu forgotten about Kallen? Im going to predict that Kallen will be siding with Brittania only to save Lulu and then crazy Nina places the bomb inside Kallen's knight. Oh yeah and I see Rolo dying trying to kill Nunnaly...like Orange shooting him or something like that...and then lulu delivers a hater speach to him and dies from a heart attach.
I have a feeling that Schneizel and Lelouch will join forces against the emperor... Just a thought
schneizel's cool. at this rate, this wont end well and im looking foward to the blood bath ^^
Isn't it obvious why Lelouch is so upset by Suzaku's betrayal? If Suzaku hadn't said those last lines about Lelouch should continue being Zero to make lies reality then he would save Nunnually blah blah and stuff, I don't think Lelouch would be this much hurt. I think Lelouch has expected the worst situation thus uses Geass on Guilford. It's just that he didn't expect it would come out of Suzaku who maybe throwing all kinds of hatred to him but nevertheless should be frank to him. It's a matter of respect that Lelouch hopes Suzaku would give him as much whether his request on Nunnally is rejected or not. Remember that Suzaku may have betrayed him once but it's the kind that is done right at the face, not a backstabbing like this.
And is it wrong to have hope on the person who was once your first and best friend? If Lelouch didn't have hope, he wouldn't bother calling Suzaku in the first place. When he sees that Suzaku is alone, it's only natural that the hope gots higher for that means Suzaku is being true to him, just like how he intends to be to Suzaku as well. And Lelouch has gone all out to accept all the punishment coming from Suzaku. It's like a situation where I would explain as "I am willing to die by your hand, but not others" I believe Lelouch has such pride you know. He just can't accept that he's tricked to be at someone else's mercy (Schneizel is his brother, but he's still not the person Lelouch accepts)
Also about how Lelouch is done trusting people. Again it's natural that if a best friend cannot be trusted, others are not even in consideration.
I don't get why someone would continue watching a series even though all they do is moan and complain about it.
Hmm... so I'm guessing Suzaku has explained what geass is to Schneizel now. They weren't really completely clear on what Suzaku told him yet.
AHAHA. Suzaku now knows how it feels to be wrongfully accused of things.
All this lack of trust reminds me of Higurashi for some reason.
Their maniacal laughing sprees seem pretty similar too.
Also. Lelouch told Rolo to get Nunnally? What?? Anyone else see a problem with that.
Garten you forgot to mention Suzaku Will be forced to use the Freya, and not just that... Lelouch sent ROLO! to bring Nunnally back... It sounds so stupid that I bet he has a backup plan to ensure Nunnally's safety.
Something very funny is, that the British Isles aren't in the Britannian Empire, I mean, just how the fuck is this going oO
For me as a German I love it, that Germany still is Germany (go kick there asses!).
Rolo saving Nunally is really the stupidest idea, but I think Lelouch has a Plan for this, but will it work out?
I think Suzaku told Schneizel about Geass, I mean they heard about it in the Diskussion and Schneizel seid now he has all the Cards in his Hands. I can't think of anything else than knowing about Geass now.
I want to know what the Emperor is planing, it must be something very big. And yes, he love playing Games, like every other Man on this world, and War is nothing else than the biggest Game on Earth.
What comes to my mind a few Days ago is, why dont you see something like Sisters oder Brothers of the Emperor, did he kill all of them? I mean if I remember correctly Nunally was something like his 114th kid so that means he has at least 114 children, so its quite unbelievable that his father just has him, except he killed all of them ^^
One one other thing, the Year Japan lost and the Year Marianne was killled are the same, so could there be an connection?
Oh and by the Way could it be that the Knight of the Rounds aren't Britannian People? I mean Bismarck Waldstein is defenitly a German name And Luciano (the fist name of Bradley) sure sounds Italian.
And hte other known ones Gino Weinberg, Anya Alstreim, Nonette Enneagram and Monica Kruszewski arent very British too. Yeah and Suzaku is Japanese of course ^^
"I don't get why someone would continue watching a series even though all they do is moan and complain about it."
Dude, get lost. People have a right to say whether or not they like a series. If they want to watch it, then it's their choice. People like you sickens me. You don't want anyone to say a bad thing about series that you watch even when the series in question is awful.
"Something very funny is, that the British Isles aren't in the Britannian Empire, I mean, just how the fuck is this going "
Isn't it mentioned before that Britannian in this story is actually referring to Americans? Wasn't it mentioned in one of the episodes?
Personally, I'm not that impressed with this episode. I kind of knew that things will go south the minute Suzaku tries to patch things up. It's too early in the series for these two to make up. Now, however, I wonder if they'll ever clear up their misunderstanding.
Maybe despite the emperor's douchebag behaviour, he thinks Lulu is the one who'll be a better ruler than Schenizel? Maybe that's why he never told Schneizel that Zero is Lulu.
@FlyTaggart : on "One one other thing, the Year Japan lost and the Year Marianne was killled are the same, so could there be an connection?"
Same year? I thought Marianne was killed a year prior to Japan's defeat in 2010. No comment on the connection of two events though.
>>>>"People like you sickens me. You don't want anyone to say a bad thing about series that you watch even when the series in question is awful."
So Geass is awful? Too bad you think like that. It's been a while that I liked any anime this much. Maybe I love Lulu too much I blind myself from the flaw XD
"So Geass is awful? Too bad you think like that. It's been a while that I liked any anime this much."
Did I say that Geass is awful? No. I said that people are entitled to their opinion. If they feel Geass is awful then let them say it. You might not like that person's opinion but that's life.
Both things happened 10 years ago I read on the Geass site in the English Wikipedia.
Ok when it prefers to Americans it is understandable. I mean the Emperor naming Charles and making it the Britannian Empire could be making enough Trouble in England XD
About the Ougi-Case. He is an important Person, because a lot of People trust Zero because Ougi trusts him. You could say that Zero is the Mind of the Black Knights and Ougi the Heart. If he deserts then a lot more people will question the Leadership of Zero.
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Both Kallen and Ougi are the Heart and Soul of the Black Knights.
And I believe that is where Kallen will come back - with her newfound knowledge of the man behind the mask of Zero. She'll have to show that he is actually just a regular human instead of the 'god' and savior that people make him out to be. They're expecting too much of him - everyone is - and he's cracking under the pressure of getting what he wants vs what everyone else wants. He might have kept the status quo if they were still in Japan but now it's an international affair. This is the time for some things to be revealed if he wants to keep having the Black Knights fight for and with him. Kallen might be good, but she's not a one-woman army. ^^;
If Kallen 'joins' Britannia, it will be only to save Nunally, or to protect her, since she knows how important the girl is for Lelouch.
I don't know what made her choose Japan over Britannia... maybe the fact that her loved brother was full japanese, and got killed by a Britannian.
Also... I've always wondered why Lelouch called her Queen since the beginning of Season 1 (Q-1)
She is the Queen because it is the Powerfullest figure in Chess and Kallen is his Powerfullest Weapon
XingKe's illness isnt going to take him any time soon. He may not live to see Tiani graduate elementary school but as physically fit and strong willed as he is I think he can finish a war.
I think that Rolo may not kill Nunnaly and heres why:
1.) He should know that him killing Nunnaly would push Lelou over the edge and Rolo could expect a sudden painful death.
2.)Nunnaly could become another person in his long wished for family.
3.)If Sayoko is there then Rolo may not be able to react fast enough to stop Sayoko from killing him to protect Nunnaly.
4.)I bet if Rolo does try to use his geas and kill Nunnaly, it'll probably be the geas that kils him (since his heart stops). He probably hesitate and push the geass too far.
I have a strong hope that Kallen will live, most of the KoR will die, most of the OotBK will die (I hope Todou and Chiba make it now) and most of the royal family will possibly die (the emperor may get stuck in some other world like Lelou hoped before).
I dun have high hopes for a happy ending, but I have high hopes for a reasonable one (if Kallen and Lelou get together for a moment before Lelouch dies or something it should be all good :
I dont think Kallen and Lelouch will be together, cause she doesn't love him, as you could see in the Episode where Lelouch wanted do take Refrain.
The possibility for C.C. and Lelouch together is much higher
@FlyTaggart : On """Both things happened 10 years ago I read on the Geass site in the English Wikipedia."""
Then the site needs to be edited. I re-watched SS1 EP7; the scene Lelouch questions his dad why his mother was not protected. A text on the picture says "8 years ago 2009 a.t.b."
>>>>""""I don't think Kallen and Lelouch will be together, cause she doesn't love him, as you could see in the Episode where Lelouch wanted do take Refrain.""""
Well, I have to disagree. You think any woman would want to be kissed in such scenario? You are a man then, I assume? For C.C.&Lulu together, I have to agree though. It seems Lelouch will have to be alone soon so he only has C.C left, a girl who doesn't have any other attachment aside Lelouch himself. She would follow him no matter where he goes. It won't be a romantic relationship that will make audience drool but it quite suits Lelouch, I think.
@Seijii :
I'm also convinced that Rolo wouldn't kill Nunnally but I think it's more because he fears that Lelouch would hate him. As for your reasons :
"2.)Nunnaly could become another person in his long wished for family."
--> I don't think Rolo cares. He killed Shirley, a person who he was told (by Milly) that she might become a family (R2, ep.3)with no hesitation nor regret at all.
"3.)If Sayoko is there then Rolo may not be able to react fast enough to stop Sayoko from killing him to protect Nunnaly."
--> But no normal person could fight his Geass, not even a ninja. Come to think of it, I think Lelouch should have sent Orenji along with the team for pre-caution. Well, whatever.
"4.)I bet if Rolo does try to use his geas and kill Nunnaly, it'll probably be the geas that kils him (since his heart stops). He probably hesitate and push the geass too far."
--> He has this problem from the start, since he was a kid, yet he never showed any fear of using his Geass. I don't think he would fear for it now, despite the fact that it will someday really kill him (and omg that seems to be very near)
@avocado sushi
Well, knowing the funny twists and turns CG likes to take I wouldnt be surprised if Rolos "Final Geas" was right when he was about to kill Nunnaly. I think the writers would get alot of complaints if the one person in the series who wasnt really involved got killed by a loony. Nunnaly may be Lelous sister and junk but shes the only character thats had little to know involment and is somewhat oblivious to certain things.
And I think Rolo could have a better attachment to Nunnaly than Shirley. As far as Rolo is concerned Shirley was a threat to Lelous secret. Nunnaly is still oblivous to most of everything and Rolo wouldnt be able to explain his actions away so why not just become a "big brother".
Im sure Nunnaly could unintentionally play on Rolo's severe emotional twitches. xD
I dont think that Lelouch is going to end up with anyone i think he's going to end up alone but if i had to chose it would Kallen just because u can see that she wants to get closer to him she's always asking Nunnally about him and whats he like...Kallen might just join the knight of rounds its her opporunity to escape i mean she's just been sitting there in that chair for so long and i read that one of the dvd covers had a picture with Kallen on the front with Gino and Anya
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