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Code Geass R2 ep.08

May 25, 2008 | 54 Comments

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Sorry for the late entry. This really is the worst week for me to post any kind of entry since I have a major presentation looming in a few days and an exam coming the week after. I'm just glad that the next episode won't be released a week later since that means I would have finished the exam by then. Anyway, this is a rather nice temporary resolution for the series although I'm not so sure if this is a good idea for the Japanese. While watching this, I'm reminded of Moses and his attempt to lead the Jew away from Egypt and into the promise land. There wasn't any sea being parted but the whole thing was similar to making the impossible into a possibility. At any rate, it's an impressive feat albeit one which leaves me wonder, where to go next from here? Would the series end with Zero leading the Japanese back to Japan? I also wonder if this means we'll shift the focus away from Japan and into other countries?

In the aftermath of his announcement, the Black Knight become suspicious of Zero's intention. The only one who greets Zero enthusiastically is Kaguya. Zero then explains to the others that he has no intentions on fighting and asks Toudou what being Japanese means. Later on, it becomes apparent that the Japanese are still not convinced by this and thinks that Zero is forced to join the Special Administrative Zone. In her office, Nunnally is ordered by her aid to run her ideas through her before doing anything since a governer-general is not an Emperor. At school, Suzaku tells the student council that he has to take time off school again since he'll be busy with special administrative area. This causes the others to wonder if he can help Kallen by doing something judicial transactions. Lelouch continues to pretend that he still hasn't regained his memory and asks if he can talk to the new governer-general again to persuade her about Kallen. Suzaku wonders if Lelouch really has not regained his memory because if he has, he'd like to know why Lelouch killed Euphemia. Well, maybe you should have asked that before you hand him over like a lamb to the slaughter?

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Speaking of lambs, some stupid random Eleven tries to kill Suzaku by charging after the later with a knife but Suzaku's "survive" Geass is activated and Suzaku makes his best effort to thwart the killer. Suzaku tells himself how Lelouch casted a "survive" geass on him, a person who desires punishment and death from within. Meanwhile, Lelouch is in the middle of buttering up Diethard for a plan well done. After ending the call, Lelouch assures Rolo that he'll protect the school and their way of life but he doesn't agree with Britannia's way of ruling. Rolo reminds him again that the reason he helped Lelouch is because of this. The two then stop talking when Villetta enters the room. Lelouch directly asks her if she'd like to see Ougi. Meanwhile Nina greets Schneizel and another guy who have just returned from EU because their negotiation with France has just ended. Nina suggests that they should just keep attacking but Schneizel tells her that too much victory can lead to failure. He believes that everyone is seeking hope. Victory is just beyond hope for both him and his enemy. Meanwhile, Anya is getting either clawed or bitten by Arthur, causing her to realize that the cat belongs to Suzaku.

Suzaku comments how the cat likes Anya. Anya realizes that Suzaku is wearing a Japanese outfit. Suzaku explains that this is what he wears on training. A man then comes to bring a form for Suzaku to sign. It's a death sentence for the Eleven who attacked him. At the same time, Nina informs Schneizel that although her first attempt to create the weapon was halted, she won't disappoint Schneizel this time around. Scheneizel tells her that Nina just like Cornelia, Nunnally, Kanon, and Suzaku are doing all of these for Euphemia so he really trusts them. Back to Suzaku, Anya decides to sign the form since Suzaku looks hesitant in signing it. Anya then asks Suzaku if he's a masochist for going back to area 11 where he's known as traitor. Suzaku doesn't mind since the person who shared the same idea with him is gone. Besides, he believes that he was originally a sinner anyway. Their conversation is interrupted when Gino tells them that the message from Zero is here. Zero then tells the knights that he'll bring one million people. He, however, has one condition: he wants Suzaku to let him go. He has even prepared a reason for Suzaku: Suzaku can claim that he's exiling Zero out of the country.

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The knights assume that Zero wants to discard the Black Knights as long as he can go away safely. Lohmeyer reminds the others that there's an act which will let Zero leave, surprising Suzaku. Gino also thinks that the terrorist in area 11 will scatter if they do this. Later on, Suzaku explains that the group agrees to let Zero go. Nunnally sees to support this as well during a ceremony to commemorate Euphie's death. Suzaku then places the candle that he and Nunnally wants to place in the water when he realizes that someone else has placed a white candle with Euphie's name in it. On the day when the Japanese are supposed to join the special administrative zone, one million people gather in the area. Meanwhile, Li and another woman is inside a plane talking about their plan when Li suddenly coughing blood, worrying his colleague. Lohmeyer then announces the deal that they've made with Zero: the people who joins special administrative zone will be granted citizenship of Britannia, lowering them one level from their crime. Crimes of level three of below will be suspended from their sentence but those who kill Carares won't be forgiven. According to the law, they will exile Zero.

Upon hearing this, Zero thanks the Britannia and asks Suzaku what being Japanese means. Is it language? The land? or is it in one's blood. Suzaku answers that it's in one's heart. Zero agrees. He believes it's self-awareness, standards, and restraints. It means as long as one still has the culture, you're still Japanese. Upon hearing this, all one million Elevens releases a gas which covers up the entire area. Because of this Anya and the bodyguards immediately secure Nunnally away from the area. When the gas clears, Britannians are shocked that the place is covered with Zeros, or rather, everyone has donned a Zero mask and cape. Zero then tells the other Zeroes that the new governer Nunnally orders everyone to be exiled. He assures them that no matter where they are, as long as their heart doesn't change, they are still Japanese. Much to the shock of everyone else, a large sea sled disguised as an iceland comes near the port. Laksharta assures them the sled will be alright. It has a special heat sink and can keep ice perfectly. At the same time, the student council realizes that Zero has turned into a symbol. Villetta tries to order the Zeros to open their mask but Ougi in Zero mask stops her.

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Britannian wants Suzaku to slaughter the one million Zero but Suzaku refuses to do this since they haven't done anything. Suzaku asks Zero to order these men to open their mask but Zero refuses. This means everything falls into Suzaku's hand. Lelouch realizes that once the elevens are gone, there won't be anymore rebellion and they won't have to make Nunnally hand's dirty. Upon seeing Suzaku's hesitation, Lohmeyer wants to shoot the other Elevens but Suzaku stops her when he remembers Euphemia. He reminds her that Euphie and Nunnally would want them to let these people go. Lohmeyer points out that this is because Suzaku was a number but Suzaku claims it has nothing to do with him being a number. He thinks there's no use in keeping people who disagree with their ideas. Suzaku then asks Zero to promise him that he'll save them. Zero promises to do that but also asks Suzaku to do his part by protecting Japanese who are still in area 11. Suzaku assures him that is the reason why he joined the army. Zero then appears from behind the ice mountain and orders the other Zeroes to exile the land. In the sled, Zero realizes that he has to thank Suzaku for helping him in his plan and hopes that Suzaku will keep his promise.

Highlights

* Suzaku's "to survive" geass. Can someone please remind me what this Geass actually did and why he still has it at the moment?
* Lelouch's determination to protect the school. I hope he really doesn't back out of his word because Rolo will kill him if he does that.
* Anya asking Suzaku if he's a masochist. Then answer is Y/Y?
* That candle which says "Euphemia" is that from Lelouch?
* The 1 million Zero. What I've always wanted. Zero should be a symbol not just a one man fight.
* The ice sled. It was rather silly and I wonder if it can hold 1 million people at bay
* Sayako recognizing Lelouch. Is this suppose to be a major plot point or just a throwaway one?
* Li Xingke: is he a good guy or a bad one? He also seems to be terminally ill.

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Impression

First thing first, the most interesting part of this episode is the concept of nationalism and what it means for each person. I'm not sure I completely agree with what Zero said that nationalism is in your heart and as long as you remember that, you're still a citizen of that country. This is probably true for many people, especially those who are expatriates living in another country but still hold the motherland with fond thoughts. However, there are those who also would like to go back to motherland one day because for them, being in motherland is a part of what makes you a part of that country. And then there are those who can adopt any nationality and have no sense of identity and nationalism whatsoever. These people sometimes see two countries as their home so they'll be fine in whichever country they live in. The thing is, I'm not sure the later option is applicable to the Eleven in this story. To me, this decision to leave Japan seems like something that they feel they must do for the time being until they can win against Britannian empire one day. It's a rather sad thing to do though to leave your home country like that, leaving it to a bunch of foreigners who have no business to be there to run it.

Moreover, what will Zero do with these one million people? Like I said earlier, I have a really bad flashback of Moses leading Jews out of Egypt because they are treated badly by the Egyptian. Now, I'd like to say that Zero lead the Elevens out of Japan and into the promise land but then I realized: "what promised land"? There's no promise land in this story. I doubt that the Elevens will be treated better in China than they would be in Japan. Also, I'd expect some Elevens to be unhappy that they have to leave the motherland because of one person's decision. They certainly can't just go floating in that sled forever. They would run out of fuel and food in no time. In addition to this, I get the impression that there are some Japanese left in Area 11 so the conflict will still exist even if its minimized. At any rate, it was a pretty thought-provoking episode. I think anyone who's been an immigrant and has now settled in another country can understand what it feels like to be one of those exiled Zeros. Speaking of which, good job on the use of Zero as a representation of the Japanese, writers. By becoming Zero, the Japanese are saying that they'll have to start all over again from Zero. They have to form a new identity, starting to live in another country, and face all new struggle in that country.

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In other note, I wonder what Lelouch will do in regards to his high school role? Is he going to go back and forth to Ashford Academy to keep up the charade? Because if he doesn't do this, the Emperor will know that he has regained his memory and Nunnally will be in danger. Plus, this doesn't exactly solve his real problem: the fact that he is still separated from Nunnally. My guess is that Lelouch will go back to Japan and to the school to maintain his role as Lelouch. Since Rolo has a frame, it wouldn't be difficult for him to transfer Lelouch back and forth between school and whichever country that ice sled is meant to go. Although on a hindsight, I think Suzaku already knows that Lelouch was the one who put the candle in that ceremony.

Poll

What's your concept of nationality? Is it only in your heart? Do you have the need to live in your homeland? Are you pretty happy being an immigrant in another country? If you're an immigrant in another country, have you assimilated enough with that country to the point that you feel that you're a part of that country (instead of a part of a country where you used to be)?

Posted by Garten
Comments
May 25, 2008 | Eradium wrote:

I agree that it was a nice end to cap the series for one week break. I can't wait to see how the refugees will react once they are in another country. But why China? It's not as if that country is not overpopulated already.

May 25, 2008 | lax wrote:

I agree with Zero's way of making a person Japanese. In my opinion, it doesn't matter where you are, most importantly that you're alive and there will always be a chance to build Japan all over again. As long as you can remember you are Japanese and never forget your culture, that's what's most valuable. I think he's on the right track =D

May 25, 2008 | anna_w wrote:

I was born in the US but I have Asian parents so while I don't really understand what it must be like for my parents, I can imagine it must be pretty tough for them to leave their country (Korea) and live in the US. I remember suffering a bit of identity issue though since on the one hand I'm a US citizen but I also have Korean blood in me. In the end, I feel that I'm a US citizen and the Korean culture is just an added bonus.

May 25, 2008 | Novan wrote:

This episode is soooo GREAT!!!! Zero isn't a person, Zero is an idea.

Its a very large iceburg, and ice is buoyant so I'm sure it will hold a million people.

May 25, 2008 | firebolt wrote:

I have lived here in Japan for a while but although I want to call it my 2nd home, I am always reminded that to some Japanese, I'm stil just a foreigner, a gaijin, as they said. It's hard to forget your original nationality if the country where you live now won't let you forget it either.

May 25, 2008 | Garten wrote:

firebolt, it's interesting you said that because I have heard similar things from friends who have live there for a long time. I wonder if the reason Code Geass came up with this "you're still Japanese no matter where you live" is because the writers also believe that the foreigners in Japan are still foreigners even though they have lived in Japan for years and are married to Japanese and have Japanese children, etc. I really hope that's not the case.

May 25, 2008 | Novan wrote:

PS: Gartan, CG takes place in the year 2018 (hopefully its equal to the real world calender) so the 2012 melting point for the iceberg is overdue.

I agree with zero, nationality is in the heart and not where you were born or who you were born as. Look at all the millions of immigrants who came to the US during the early 1900s seeking new hope and Emma Lazarus's poem
The New Colossus "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

These immigrants from across the world made America, their adopted land, into a strong and powerful nation.

Now I wonder what the title for the next episode implies "Bride of the Vermillion city"

May 25, 2008 | katya wrote:

When everyone put on their 'Zero suits' all I could think was,

'Remember remember,
the 5th of November..........'


V for Vendetta, anyone?

May 25, 2008 | Garten wrote:

PS: Gartan, CG takes place in the year 2018 (hopefully its equal to the real world calender) so the 2012 melting point for the iceberg is overdue.

LOL. Apparently the mayan prophecy doesn't apply to this story. Oh well, let's make it 2022 then?

May 25, 2008 | Yenkaz wrote:

Lelouch geassed Suzaku to "survive" no matter what, lelouch did it when they were stuck on that island with incomming missles and Suzaku being willing to sacrifice himself to kill Zero.
He still has it because as far as we know, there is no time limit to the geass.

May 25, 2008 | Nein wrote:

A fantastic episode. Love the expression on Suzaku's face when he saw the millions Zero. I'll bet he gets in trouble from the Britannian government now for releasing those one million people.

@katya

I agree. All I can think is how so similar the story was to V for Vendetta.

May 25, 2008 | Johnny wrote:

Yes, the candle is from Lelouch.

You can see Lelouch walking away from the mausoleum in the background towards Rolo after the scene with Suzaku and Nunnally inside the mausoleum.

May 25, 2008 | Novan wrote:

I just wanted to add, though I agree with Zero's concept that nationality is in the heart, I detest the concept of nationality itself as the nations of the world are man-made while it is on Earth (Mother Earth, Gaia) that every single human being is born. Regardless of our skin color, where we were born, what gender, religion, ethnic race, status we are, we all bleed the same red blood. So I prefer to be called a Terran instead of w/e country I was born in or am a citizen.

May 25, 2008 | van_fannelx wrote:

I think whether you feel nationalistic towards your homeland or not depends on your own previous attachment to that country and if your country has a strong enough culture/identity in the first place. If that's not the case, then you'd be more likely to adapt your new country's culture/custom.

May 25, 2008 | David wrote:

I was born in the US with chinese parents and I consider myself as an American. I've never visited China and I've never had any strong feelings for it. But no matter how you look at me, I'll still be "Chinese"-American, not full fledged. No matter how one looks at me, I'll still be thought of as Chinese from an American point of view, so its understandable for many immigrants to have troubles identifying themselves because of a person's appearance. Though it's probably easier for American immigrants since there is so much diversity in the US than anywhere else.

May 25, 2008 | Megaman0 wrote:

Good episode I just don't like the fact that I now have to wait 2 weeks for the next episode. I wonder if they'll start with a new opening?

Also: Ms. Romeyer is Cornellia?!

May 26, 2008 | Anonymous wrote:

how could lulu put that candle? Did they show it?

May 26, 2008 | Atashi wrote:

It goes both ways for me; I don't identify with being an American, nor do I feel completely Chinese. Depending on the group of people I'm with, I crack jokes about the other nation. If a war ever comes up, I would probably swear allegiance with either the winning country or flee to Canada.

May 26, 2008 | Draxx wrote:

My problem with this episode is that it seems foolish for Lulu to do this. Judging from what he said before the event, he's not going back to Nippon but how he'll save Nunnally and protect the school then?

May 26, 2008 | lax wrote:

I just noticed there's a dog with a Zero mask on it during the ceremony.
look for frame 17:36 from ep 8

May 26, 2008 | h wrote:

Uh, question. Doesn't anyone but Sayako notice when Lelouch takes off his mask for that brief moment? Or is everyone else just too far away to see his face clearly. I would've expected more of a 'OMGZERO GET CLOSE SEE HIS FACE!!1!!!' reaction if th latter was the case.

Also, I find is interesting how Lelouch would risk Suzaku finding out that he regained his memories just to pay tribute to Euphemia (and maybe take a sneak peek at Nunally on the way? xD). His first love, eh?

May 26, 2008 | Plankto wrote:

Suzaku's claims to only wanting peace, and hesitating to execute that japanese prisoner are pretty hypocritical, considering he's helped Britannia wage an offensive war against the E.U. According to the wikipedia entry on Code Geass "Unlike the Holy Empire of Britannia, it is more democratic and supports equal human rights," so he's basically helping them try to make another shitty area of a free country. If the makers end up taking Suzaku's side, I'll be pretty pissed.

May 26, 2008 | Johnny wrote:

No, only Sayako saw Lelouch. No one knew where he was; you'll note that Sayako didn't even know he was going to be there until she heard his voice booming behind her.

As for Lelouch's "Euphemia" candle, you'll need to remember that Lelouch truly remorseful in killing her; it's something he needed to do. Remember that from Season 1 that Euphemia, Lelouch and Nunnally had a lot of fond childhood memories together (hence Nunnallys "Euphy" candle).

Plus, you get the symbolic scene of the siblings' candles floating alongside each other, together, in the final scene

May 26, 2008 | Pasta wrote:

Sorry, a question. So there won't be a new episode next week?? :(

May 26, 2008 | Stephanie wrote:

Wait. Where did Kanon come from? He is a blood relative of Euphemia (based on his hair color)? He just appeared out of nowhere, the sly dog.

I love how all the Zero costumes where different colors, too. But damn, he must have geass'd/hired an entire factory or two to make all those outfits in time! (Although I'm still hoping for a visual novel showing him making his own, e.g. picking out the fabric, sewing it together, etc. It'd be an AWW-fest.)

Interesting episode, but it's definitely a Deus ex Machina result if anything.

May 26, 2008 | metatron_220 wrote:

@Pasta

Yeah, it's been confirmed that there won't be new episode (episode 9) next week.

@Stephanie

Is Kanon a he? I thought it's a she. Damn you Clamp and your gender-ambiguous characters.

May 26, 2008 | Pasta wrote:

No~~Why is this happening......
Thank you metatron_220 :)

* Suzaku's "to survive" geass. Can someone please remind me what this Geass actually did and why he still has it at the moment?

It was in Season 1, before Zero, Suzaku, Yuphy, and Karen got on to the island, Suzaku was going to accept the order to sacrefies himself so Avalon can fire and destory Zero and the Black Knights. Zero was with Suzaku at the time of course, and was mad about his decision. He geassed Suzaku so that no metter what happen, Suzaku would never give up his life so easily. By looking at the girl that Zero geassed in the beginning to find out how long the geass could last, its no surpriced that Suzaku's geass is still in effect.

That is what I remember, if there is any error, please correct me.

May 26, 2008 | Pasta wrote:

Sorry, forgot to put my name again......

May 26, 2008 | Linnet wrote:

Ahah, I'm a Canadian immigrant who moved to the US when I was ten. My father immigrated to Canada from Italy, my mother immigrated to Canada from the Philippines, and I immigrated to the US with them when I was ten.

I consider the US my home. I can't really compare it to my parents, because ... well, shoot, Canada is only six hours away! Regardless, my father and I agree that home is where your family is. He said when he came back to Italy after spending so many years in Canada, it didn't feel like "home" anymore; his heart was in Canada and now it's in the US, cuz that's what he knows.

My mom, on the other hand, she still calls the Phillipines home and she wants to return really badly one day for a visit. She embraced the US culture as well, but I think she's still attached enough to her home country to consider it home as well.

I guess it really depends on the person, because everyone and everything I care about is in the US as well, so I consider the US my home.

... Ok, almost everything I care about. 8| I miss ketchup chips.

May 26, 2008 | Jestersage wrote:

One thing I notice is that, as long as you a visibly difference, people will identify you according to your look (blood) instead of who you are. This will also in turn led to how you define yourself.

So Linnet, assuming your mother is full Philphinos, then the fact that she resembles a typical Asian may help the other reinofrce the fact that she is "different", which will also help her remind herself that she is a Philphino American. While your father, being Caucasian and resembles most Americans, will be easier to identify by others and thus with others.

So no; I do not fully agree with Lelouch's idea of race, because human beings still judge others based on looks first. But if we do evolve to a time where accents and face truly does not matter, then Lelouch is correct.

May 26, 2008 | Garten wrote:

It was in Season 1, before Zero, Suzaku, Yuphy, and Karen got on to the island, Suzaku was going to accept the order to sacrefies himself so Avalon can fire and destory Zero and the Black Knights.

Thanks Pasta. I've heard a rumor that the reason there won't be an episode of Code Geass next week is apparently because of the Earthquake in China. Maybe the storyline is a bit too close to home? Or maybe the writers just want one week break before the show resumes.

May 26, 2008 | MisaX wrote:

I think home is where the people you love are and where your heart is. It sounds mushy, but I think it rings pretty true.

Li can be both evil and good if he's terminally ill, it all fits DXD

May 26, 2008 | T_I wrote:

Zero will help Ling overthrow the Chinese government as part of their deal

Thus, gaining resources and support from China

What? You think Ling did all of that for free?

There's something ironic and amusing about the possibility of him invading other countries for resources and support, though.

I must say that he's becoming a closer to his father with each passing arc.

As for immigrants. Let's just say my motherland treated my like crap and I have no love for it. Being part of a scapegoat minority in a 3rd world country sucks. It can sink for all I care.

In less bitter words, home is where the heart is.

May 26, 2008 | Suvy wrote:

you guys may laugh at the idea of an iceberg ship but as an engineer i think its sheer brilliance. I mean, there's no actual way of holding 1 milion people on a ship and expect it not to sink...unless its clinging to a large floaty or walking underwater.

May 26, 2008 | Skarpile wrote:

Suzaku's "to survive" geass. Can someone please remind me what this Geass actually did and why he still has it at the moment?

Well, the incident in Shikinejima Island, remember? When Lelouch (has no other option but to) uses his Geass at Suzaku and ordered him to "live." And I think even if he/she is far away from Lelouch or any Geass users, if the order orders him or her to do something as a routine or something that still can be done for a few times (e.g. the girl who engraves crosses on the walls), that person will still do it, no matter how far he or she is from the user.

Edit: Oops, it seems someone has already explained this. Hehe. Mybad.

May 26, 2008 | Milkberry wrote:

I think most people are confusing Nationality with Citizenship. Nationality is based on ethnics, cultural habits and patterns of living. However the concept of Nationality is also very abstract.

Citizenship is absolute, basically means you have the paperworks and the passport and full rights of being a citizen of a country.

So you can say that you're of X nationality and a Y citizen, right? I suppose this holds true especially in the States. Do you actually say "Hello my nationality is American"? I always thought that you say "I'm an American citizen."

Anyways correct me if I'm wrong. I do agree with the fact that way of life and cultural habits makes a Nationality. And no, you do not have to live in your homeland.

May 26, 2008 | Onion wrote:

"Being part of a scapegoat minority in a 3rd world country sucks"

It ain't all fun and games being one in the first world, either.

About the glacier-ships, there was actually something sort of like that done during WWII, I think. I just read something about it a week ago. Something about ice mixed with sawdust or something that made it really hard to melt.

Of course, it was hard to freeze as well.

Also, Zero-Dog is Lulz.

May 26, 2008 | Onion wrote:

Also, I like how they finally explained where Sniper Island actually is. Who knew it was Japan?

May 27, 2008 | Grime wrote:

What can I say about it really? I was born in the U.S, my parents are Chinese immigrants though, and at times I do not feel really attached to my roots though my parents obviously do. But growing up in the U.S I learned the foundations of the 'mixing pot' here, in this case I've also come to regard my homeland in a very critical light. In this case, you could say the mulit-cultural aspects of this land where so many have gathered has made me a person who wants regards the world, not my nation, as my home. But on an objective matter, that matter of a homeland and its value to a person is I believe a state of mind, and that obviously changes with each person because of the differing opinion, but if you have a strong enough will then I find it very possible to carry your identity in your heart, so yes I agree with him, it might not work for everyone but it doesn't have too, so long as the possibility is there then what Lelouch says is correct in the respect.

May 27, 2008 | Novan wrote:

@Grime: The correct terms are 'melting pot' and 'mosaic'

@T_I: in what part of the series/episode did anyone ever mention Lelouch invading the chinese federation for the natural resources? And is Lelouch going to give the chinese numbers instead of calling them chinese? Is he going to oppress them?

I think NOT.

May 27, 2008 | Abrojo wrote:

People seem to forget that the whole goal of Zero wasn't to liberate Japanese people but rather than to take revenge on the Emperor for his mother's death. Only now in R2 he changed his mind and decided to stand for more.

The only person that has consistantly fighting for Japanese has been Suzaku (though his methods are dubious).

May 28, 2008 | reina wrote:

heh... When I heard Lohmeyer, all I could think about was Hachikuro's Lohmeyer senpai.

May 28, 2008 | Xiero wrote:

I hope the series will now focus on the Chinese guys, the geass contracts, The sword of (Akasha?) and the mystery behind lelouch's mother

I'm starting agree to the fact that Marianne might actually be alive and is communicating with CC. His father could've implanted memories of her death into everyone in the brittanian empire (This is a bad assumption, since we don't know if the emperor can geass a person more than once like lelouch. If it is, this theory would be contradictary, because that would mean his father geassed him again in R2 episode 2) This is what i think the emperor did, i'm not really sure if there are any big holes in my theory .(Except for "Why would he do that).

May 28, 2008 | Novan wrote:

Abrojo: it really doesn't matter what his original goal was, as long as the end product is a world where nunally, kellen's mother, and everyone else who suffered oppression can live free. Lelouch doesn't have to fight for the japanese to be correct, his aim of fighting to create a world where nunally can live safely will also result in the additional by-products of the japanese regaining their identity.

Suzaku on the other hand is taking the easy way, claiming that he is going to try and change brittania from the inside, but he actually lacks the intelligence to do that. Look at how he became a member of the Rounds: by selling out Lelouch, his best friend. Suzaku reminds me of the blind swordsman Uonuma Usui from Rurouni Kenshin. Usui joined Shishio's 10 swords as a way to get his revenge on Shishio (thats what Usui claimed anyway) but Saito revealed that deep down Usui knows he won't be able to kill Shishio and just boasts about killing him to hide that fact from everyone else. Saito also points out that Shishio knows this too and is just playing along to use Usui. Since Usui can't kill Shishio, he kills people weaker than himself to boost his ego. Same for Suzaku, he knows that he can't change the way Brittania is so he sold out Lelouch and brags about how he aims to become the Knight of One so he can ask for Japan to be under his control, only to boost his ego and try to satisfy himself that he is actually doing something for japan when he isn't accomplishing anything at all. Look at how the japanese in Area 11 regard him: traitor, knight of the genocide princess, etc while they hail Zero as their savior and know that only Zero has the ability to save them.

May 28, 2008 | Ask wrote:

I do agree with Zero. I live in France since I was young but I was born in China and I do feel more Chinese than French (even if my Chinese is not very good and I have french nationality). I think it is simply because my family lives in China and where my roots are.

Just one question : Will Lelouch really leave Japan ? He have to keep the promise to Rollo : he have to protect their life and the school.

May 29, 2008 | maki wrote:


@ Garten: I don't know if you watch V for Vendetta (which is also directed by the directors of the Matrix trilogy and is starred by Hugo Weaving and Natalie Portman) but that scene of Japanese people dressed up as a million of Zeros really reminds of that movie....

Heck, I rather call this series "Z for Vendetta" LOL

Anyway, i'm from the Philippines and sadly, most of the Filipino people, most especially the younger generation, want to go abroad to work there since here in the Philippines ....well, it's a long story. I bet you heard about our president, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo...and of course, the situation here in my country....

anyway, the sense of nationalism here has a long history and Code Geass somewhat have similar scenarios in our Philippine history (like the colonization of the Spainards and how they mistreated our ancestors before and in fact, before the arrival of the Americans in 1900's, our ancestors lead a revolution against the Spainards)....

....but today, the people here seemed to lost the sense of being of a proud Filipino......but i heard a lot of stories of Filipinos who are working in other countries that they missed their homeland and their families very much...

my comment about this episode:
*dammit, Li Xingke is sick? Don't tell me he will die soon? Man, he's my new fav character next to Lulu :(
*Zero as Moses, well, not actually....

May 29, 2008 | maki wrote:

oh yeah, forgot to mention....

...episode 9 will be postponed next week....it will be shown instead in June 8.....this is probably because of the recent earthquake that happened in China and since the next episode features the Chinese Federation, maybe the staff want to pay their respects for those who were victims of the earthquake....

May 30, 2008 | wrote:

Don't think any1's said this, but aren't all of the 1 million 'Zeroes' members of the Black knights?

It is unlikely that the Black Knights has reached a membership of 1 million, but then it is also unthinkable that the remaining Japanese population in area 11 is of the order of 1 million (in real live that figure is more like 125 mil), it could be that the Black Knights have gained membership through some kind of grass root movement, and it makes more sense since these people all seem to have the resolve to leaave their home country for an unknown period of time, which would not be the case if they were just pulled off the street. Also, 1 million people deploying smoke curtains, and change into a costume while not being able to see all in the same ten, twenty seconds presents such an extreme organisational challenge, it is inconceivable that these people where gathered together at the last minute, on the other hand, the existing command structure in the BK could take care of such a stunt without trouble.

Lastly, if these 1 million weren't involved in the BK, then it doesn't make sense that they were pardoned of their past offences, and hav their "wanted" level reduced by 1.

May 31, 2008 | csakura wrote:

holy shite i just realized that you've tagged comments on your screencaps. you are hilarious ;D "geassed by the audience"...

May 31, 2008 | Celiest wrote:

It'd suck to be in one of those Zero costumes and be a fat person. HAHA

June 1, 2008 | Novan wrote:

Episode 9-10 preview is available for download at gg fansub (its a torrent file of 18mb) if anyone wants. They're like the end of episode previews we see so I don't think it spoils anything. Just makes us want more CG fast.

June 2, 2008 | Orange wrote:

@ Celiest
the emperor is right afterall... human are born to discriminates each other...

June 5, 2008 | Nithrandur wrote:

This reminds me of V for Vendetta.

June 8, 2008 | Senefen wrote:

I assume someone already said but Suzaku's geass was "Live!" he was going to die and take Lelouch with him. The Live geass made him save them both.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but props to Kaguya and her gang for organising a million zero suits, the bags and the iceberg, I also assume accommodation etc in China.

Channelling major V for vendetta vibes.

On country: I'm Australian, we were settled in 1788, we're about 200 years old and tend to be rather apathetic about issues of nationality. We have no history, were initially founded by convicts shipped over for crimes bad enough to get you exiled but not bad enough to get you hung. You know, stuff like stealing handkerchiefs, I have a guy in my family who was transported for stealing 2 dozen carrier pigeons. Blantant displays of partiotism are , i hesitate to say sickening but I can't think of another word. People cringe whent they see American's crying during their anthem or similar. Part of being Australian is not being emotionally patriotic. We have almost no past and so tend to use sports to define ourselves. This is turning into a self analysis, sorry :P. Anyway I can't say that Australia will always be home, but I'm glad I grew up here and I think it will always define who I am. I've been to the US, Canada and several countries in europe and I found the things there that make me Australian. The US in particular was surprisingly different, we worry about losing our culture and becoming another America but we're more unique that we think. Also Americans can't understand our accent! I'm from the city too! It's not that strong! Frankly I was a little put out I could understand them but not visa versa XD.
Not sure I answered the question, think I just rambled. Ah well no one reads these anyway.


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